Message from @Ottobon
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@Ottobon ' but me and you both know those people aren't embraced or remembered and its not because 'they are horrible racist fuckfaces', its because they had no talent that let them survive in a all-out war situation.' This is fantastic.
100% agree.
i dono im just saying i've known wicked people, they get no real merit outside of anti-social circles. at the opposite end, people don't look at relics of war in any favorable light and go "WOW I LOVE HOW MANY INNOCENTS IT KILLED" they look at it because of its ability to prevent destruction, even if sadly it was by virtue of causing it, to whoever was threatening it
even hiroshima and nagasaki are looked at as barbaric acts today
japanese are interesting in how they quantified that
they took the impression of it as a whole not just as a victim, if not for that Godzilla wouldn't be a hero
My understanding of it is the Japanese actually understand why it happened and accept it more than the west does
becides, america paid for their military for the next 60+ years
I think thats coz the Japs have had to learn about what really happened. The west just know a couple of big bombs were dropped.
true that poppy
I Didn't understand what really went on till well into my 20s. And I had to go looking for it.
I was very anti nuke back then, now, not so much,.
I was lucky, when I was at school they still taught history propery
properly* damn cant type
I think thats part of it.
We were taught about Nazis and wwII but not what happened after. We were taught about slavery and nothing else about the states.
i think the biggest risk is just bais
I think I can look back at school and judge it by what they choose not to teach us.
schools love to teach about the Nazi's but seem to avoid the commies like the plauge
getting some complex about it isn't helpful
yep.
its ofc important to admit how wrong it is but if the story ends there then you aren't doing the story justice
This goes back to defence/offence. We are not making these things to kill people, we are making them to protect people.
IT doesn't stop them from being designed to kill people.
if we speak on the makers point, its not even that they just love tech, and out-teching others. not even any malice there lol
Not true.
I watched a doc where the woman disigning bombs had grown up in a war zone and said she got into engineering to make the weapons that kill the people that terrorised her as a child.
wernher von braun literally only wanted to go to space
is what i mean
He missed
both the A6M and the Stukas lead engineers were devout pacificist, and in stukas case was jewish (lmao)
Spitfires creator originally drew a land speed plane and stayed alive because his country was under threat, Messershmidt wanted to beat him
it wasn't I WANT TO MURDER HUR DUR LET ME DO SOME CALCULUS TO KILL MORE
I think most scientists have a knack for removing what they are doing from real life. As long as they get to do the research.
*as long as they get to do the research*
ya what is that based in
we can definitely say its based in hierchys (drunk fuck spelling), but i haven't yet found a engineer who literally created what they could just for the sake of destruction
even if destruction was literally its end goal
yeah, I'm going to agree with one.