basically she got popular because of subs to other languages

that's what boosted her really fast

the community that did the subs also promoted her

and after more than 1 year of work, (that is of course, not even paid)

the company went against them

against who

saying they didnt want anything to do with them

the fuck?

so they dropped the support

and are now supporting other virtual youtubers

the subbers dropped support or the company dropped support for subbers

the subbers dropped support

kk

the company never helped in any way

what, is Kizuna too controversial or what am I missing

they are getting too greedy

i mean shes just a channel, most big label games these days have leagues of technically unpaid people doing moderation etc sidework for them... sucks that company (i didn't understand how exactly) went against the subbers tho

it's not "she"

it's a whole company

was "she" always a company or is this a development after she became popular, i never understood that part of the story

she's doing CMs, voice acting, manga, merch, etc

I mean, how could they help? In this case, I see it no different from fansubbing in the 00s or before. Barring the company bitching at the subbers (which they did apparently) then I wouldn't really think the company should be obligated out of anything besides a bunch of "thank you's" etc

(((she)))

nah, the company was really small at first

the only problem here is that they don't respect fans in any way

where can one read more about this

I guess my question would be does that apply to the moonies too

b/c 11s not caring about western fans is like, a tradition over there xD

the subbers got her videos subbed in 1 hour, in both her channels

in multiple languages

a "thank you" at least would be nice

but they came out aggressive towards them

At least that. But man, that is stupid. Never insult your audience should be Business 101 shit

I only know about this because I'm part of her (unofficial) discord server

there are still subbers that will do the job. But all the admins stopped their support

they can't see the company as anything but shallow

specially because her international community is huge because of them

To an extent, it feels like that any business focused around viritual youtubers would be shallow

well.. not necessarily

this is some basic stuff, they only needed to be thankful for their fanbase

True, I guess, in that it's "anime grils" and a lot of the anime studios, LN publishers, VN developers, etc are all about $$$ by way of otaku pandering. Though you don't really see outright shitting on fans there