Message from @Sunseahl

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2018-11-22 20:59:28 UTC  

i dont think the left knows what it wants, not really, currently it pushes messages but it doesent think about what those mean. id like trans people to be seen as normal people though i dont want the idea that maybe some people on the left have where they want the choice to be a trans person to be the same as what clothes you wear. frankly i think its a matter where i dont think we need more conversation about trans people anymore, i think the less we have and the more we all just live with that matter being one of the last things on our mind, the better it is for each of us.

2018-11-22 21:01:20 UTC  

the left wants all current structures to burn to the ground. They don't care about people

2018-11-22 21:01:47 UTC  

because they know if ppl are broken and unfunctional, they will vote for socialism/communism

2018-11-22 21:02:24 UTC  

well they think that, in reality people who are broken and unfunctional vote for authority

2018-11-22 21:02:45 UTC  

the left is the side of authoritarians too anyway

2018-11-22 21:02:56 UTC  

sometimes

2018-11-22 21:03:02 UTC  

at the moment yes

2018-11-22 21:03:08 UTC  

you can't get communism without authoritarianism

2018-11-22 21:03:37 UTC  

Anarcho communism

2018-11-22 21:03:42 UTC  

though authoritarian right is just as attractive, not to mention theres multiple forms of authoritarian left or right depending on what you define as being a left/right policy

2018-11-22 21:03:51 UTC  

As a trans person, myself I see a LOT wrong with gender identity bullshit. I don't need to "own" my transness... I just wanna be me, female. I know that'll never fully, genetically happen(this isn't Deep Space 9 after all) but to suddenly leap WAAAY over the trans thing to start pushing non-cis genderisms... Well that see s like a sneaky way to eventually disown Trans people from the opression stack-err 'scuse me "progressive stack" by "priveledgeing" them with cis-genderhood....

2018-11-22 21:03:58 UTC  

Anarch Communism isn't even possible in theory

2018-11-22 21:05:04 UTC  

i think anything is posible, but what is posible is not always practical or likely nor even resiliant to change

2018-11-22 21:05:09 UTC  

@Sunseahl do you support pulling drag queens out of pride parades because it offends and negatively stereotypes trans?

2018-11-22 21:05:36 UTC  

the ultimate flaw in any anarchic system is the relience upon a society not to appeal to authority

2018-11-22 21:05:53 UTC  

Anarcho communism if you can rewire everyone's brains

2018-11-22 21:06:07 UTC  

anarcho communism is redundant

2018-11-22 21:06:12 UTC  

you can't force redistribution without authority

2018-11-22 21:06:22 UTC  

We can argue all day if TERFs are promoting transxerasure... When the cis-gender discussion itself is a form or Erasure by making those who transition from one sex to another something to be ridiculed for not choosing some fashion of other expression...

2018-11-22 21:07:16 UTC  

plz don't use "cis" unironically 😂

2018-11-22 21:07:37 UTC  

And hell no... RuPaul has done more for Trans normalization than most "allies"

2018-11-22 21:07:37 UTC  

Are you saying drag queens are used by terfs to undermine trans identity?

2018-11-22 21:08:06 UTC  

wtf is trans identity even?

2018-11-22 21:08:27 UTC  

trans is from one gender to another, ideally you identify as the gender you changed to

2018-11-22 21:08:35 UTC  

there should be no "trans identity"

2018-11-22 21:08:47 UTC  

Lol

2018-11-22 21:10:14 UTC  

consitering trans people arnt a hive mind i dont think you can undermine there identity on a collective messure

2018-11-22 21:11:08 UTC  

i think drag queens are just people doing their own thing that are sometimes doing the wrong thing or are sometims being used by people, just like everyone else

2018-11-22 21:11:31 UTC  

let's go back to definitions then. What you you mean by "trans identity"?

2018-11-22 21:11:44 UTC  

i actually dont even support pride parades at all but i dont think they should be shut down by authority

2018-11-22 21:11:57 UTC  

Has anybody used affirmative action to deny a trans man a position?

2018-11-22 21:12:02 UTC  

We really need to understand the scientific vocabulary here...

Sex is the biology of genetalia
Gender is the "fashion" of your sex...

A trans person is /mostly/ trans-gender because, biologically, they will always be the sex they were born. They have simply transitioned into the opposing sexes accepted gender fashion... Even if they go as far as genetial reassignment.

2018-11-22 21:12:36 UTC  

trans just change gender

2018-11-22 21:12:39 UTC  

nothing else

2018-11-22 21:12:47 UTC  

there shouldn't be a "trans-gender"

2018-11-22 21:13:05 UTC  

if they transition to male, they identify as "male", right?

2018-11-22 21:14:56 UTC  

because if you think trans people can pick gendes instead of changing to the _other_ gender. You aren't helping the issue

2018-11-22 21:15:10 UTC  

For the most part, yes... But there's an awkward teen phase, if you will, to the process... Years of taking the other sexes hormones... There does need to be an identifying process for it... Hence TRANSitioning gender.

2018-11-22 21:15:40 UTC  

Can a trans be considered cis?

2018-11-22 21:15:47 UTC  

Yes

2018-11-22 21:15:50 UTC  

don't say "years" it usually doesn't take years