Message from @zgadnij

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2020-04-07 21:41:07 UTC  

the liberal part of polish society is an ever decreasing minority

2020-04-07 21:41:21 UTC  

with an underrepresentation of young people

2020-04-07 21:41:36 UTC  

a group of people scared of coronavirus

2020-04-07 21:41:42 UTC  

too scared to come out and protest

2020-04-07 21:41:48 UTC  

so a blitzkrieg might work

2020-04-07 21:42:03 UTC  

i'm sure that's what they're going for

2020-04-07 21:42:30 UTC  

honestly it's too late for a peaceful protest

2020-04-07 21:43:13 UTC  

the society is _not yet_ fractured and uncomfortable enough for an actual civil war or anything like that

2020-04-07 21:44:34 UTC  

plus keep in mind that, like, those of my generation who decide to stay in poland are predominantly conservative

2020-04-07 21:45:35 UTC  

most of my polish lgbt friends around my age have left poland for good

2020-04-07 21:46:41 UTC  

very few bother to vote abroad

2020-04-07 21:48:45 UTC  

i don't blame them

2020-04-07 21:49:45 UTC  

it's very hard not to be apathetic about the political situation in a country you seem to care less and less about with each passing day

2020-04-07 21:50:41 UTC  

about the country you're _unfortunately_ from, in which you've always been treated as a second-class citizen

2020-04-07 21:51:17 UTC  

and it's not just young LGBT people who feel this way, plenty of others do, too

2020-04-07 21:55:20 UTC  

there won't be a civil war, _who_ would be there to fight against the conservatives? for what? for this romantic and naive idea of a country where your rights would be respected? how likely is it that poland will ever become such a place? it's hard to fathom, so why risk everything if you can just move abroad

2020-04-07 21:57:33 UTC  

any pushback against pis shaping poland to their will in non-constitutional ways will only be symbolic

2020-04-07 21:58:29 UTC  

those stupid and naive enough to potentially fight for this piece of shit country are already on the side of prawo i sprawiedliwosc

2020-04-07 21:59:09 UTC  

all the others are tired and demotivated by the last couple of years (if not 2 decades) of their political impotence

2020-04-07 21:59:16 UTC  

tl;dr to quote @Swiss Dave fuck poland

2020-04-07 22:00:05 UTC  

> plus keep in mind that, like, those of my generation who decide to stay in poland are predominantly conservative
@zgadnij so ... expect a chile2 might be impossibl

2020-04-07 22:00:51 UTC  

unless something unexpected happens that will significantly worsen the material conditions of the _majority_ of poles

2020-04-07 22:00:58 UTC  

like food shortages, fuel shortages etc

2020-04-07 22:01:16 UTC  

and about this

2020-04-07 22:01:21 UTC  

whatcha think about this rumor

2020-04-07 22:01:35 UTC  

*gowin've said that they only've shekels for four months*

2020-04-07 22:02:02 UTC  

rumors are rumors and gowin has his own political goals

2020-04-07 22:02:39 UTC  

and do u think that for 2020 elections its possible to *troll'em*

2020-04-07 22:02:51 UTC  

* burn ur card its a crime
* use it is legal

2020-04-07 22:02:57 UTC  

no

2020-04-07 22:03:00 UTC  

*eg votin against pisses*

2020-04-07 22:03:07 UTC  

i think what they will do is the following

2020-04-07 22:03:17 UTC  

they will set up the system to fail

2020-04-07 22:03:44 UTC  

like they won't provide enough ballot boxes or even ballots

2020-04-07 22:06:20 UTC  

they may even analyse the metadata about the addressees like their age, gender, place of residence _and then "forget" to send ballots to those groups of people who more often than not vote for the opposition_

2020-04-07 22:09:53 UTC  

they may say that oops the ballot boxes are all full and so it's going to take weeks to count the votes - it's an emergency so instead of having independent electoral commission workers do that let's maybe subcontract our colleagues- i mean other workers

2020-04-07 22:11:35 UTC  

they are way past the point at which i wouldn't rule it out

2020-04-07 22:24:41 UTC  

And btw make no mistake, the EU doesn't care. Corona is a much bigger threat right now, plus, to be honest, speaking of the EU, while it's often portrayed by liberals as this noble idea of a commonwealth of european liberal democracies, its primary goals have always had to do with gaining access to 1. markets for the capital to exploit 2. cheap labour for the capital to exploit

2020-04-07 22:28:17 UTC  

and in randomquestions

2020-04-07 22:29:03 UTC  

@zgadnij
* how much time the czaarny protest thing was lasted (from law birth to its repealing)
* why czarny protest've worked
* at east cities who's the LEAST lunatic (lublin-rzeszow-bialy-tarmow)