Message from @Vulpes
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@Skellington what about natural law, is that classic
yes
(((the people)))
I would assume common law is classic
common law is modern
but wait if natural law is an overarching metanarrative then does that make it modernist?
"All old is bad, tradition is bunk and thus we will recreat the world in our own image without looking at metaphisics" this is basicaly the modernist world view in a nutshel @Skellington
pls help @Bunyip
natural law you can say has existed for all of time
because god
@Skellington its not modernist
Common law goes back to at least the Romans
the example of metanarratives was to show what postmodernism was doing differently @Skellington
in the very broad sense
thats not to say everything with a metanarrative is modernist
ok, so what is postmodern exactly then, intersectionality?
common law goes back to blackstone
that is pretty recent
The English are the most famous for common law
A meta narrative isn't modernist perse, what makes a meta narrative modrrnist is that it tries to break with all that came before and be something new
narrative*
ok, I'll really be off after this
believing in natural law is modernist because natural rights are modernist and natural law implies natural right
1) Laws are the regulations of actions.
2) Actions cause things to happen.
C1) Laws are to regulate what happens.
3) To happen is to come into existence.
C2) Laws regulate what comes into existence.
4) Moral laws deal with oughtness.
5) Duties are actions which ought to be done.
6) Impossible things cannot be caused to happen.
7) See 1), 2), and C1).
C3) Duties must be possible.
8) Outcomes are attained through the fulfillment of requirements.
9) For a requirement to be fulfilled it must exist.
10) Rights are things which ought to happen.
C4) The requirements of duties ought to exist i.e. are moral rights.
11) The existence of certain requirements can be maintained and/or caused.
C5) There is a moral duty to maintain and/or cause those rights.
12) Positively, crimes are actions which ought not to be done. Negatively, crimes are the going-against of duties.
C6) It is a moral crime to violate those moral rights.
Or simply:
1) All duties are made possible through the fulfillment of requirements.
2) Duties must be possible.
C) There must be a right to the requirements which fulfill duties.
good night
tl dr
also i never got an answer @Bunyip is globalism modernist?
@𝐇𝖆𝖚𝖕𝖙𝖘𝖈𝖍𝖆𝖗𝖋𝖚𝖍𝖗𝖊𝖗 I'm not sure I would put Blackstone in the modernist era
Natural law doesn't implicate rights
you asked that? must have missed it
yes and no
Natural law is about thelos
to my mind it isn't strictly one or the other @Skellington
natural law is from god, it exists forevers
@Vulpes the point is telos is a right
Wut
F O R E V E R S
Thelos isn't a right
read the syllogism
Yes this is true.
Rights in it self arn't bad, you must see rights as it's proper thing. They are priviliges
But what I'm trying to explain is the fact that I wouldn't put Blackstone in the modernist era group. @𝐇𝖆𝖚𝖕𝖙𝖘𝖈𝖍𝖆𝖗𝖋𝖚𝖍𝖗𝖊𝖗