Message from @Caesar
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They do, they call him a "Prophect". They reject the notion of him being divine.
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I've asked many Muslims about this.
They understand him as the savior of the Jews, knowing that the jews rejected him.
Unfortunately, what they do is make up things he said in the Hadith.
They reject the OT and NT ofc, both would destroy the Quran if actually read.
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```"“[Muhammad] seduced the people by promises of carnal pleasure to which the concupiscence of the flesh goads us. His teaching also contained precepts that were in conformity with his promises, and he gave free rein to carnal pleasure. In all this, as is not unexpected, he was obeyed by carnal men. As for proofs of the truth of his doctrine, he brought forward only such as could be grasped by the natural ability of anyone with a very modest wisdom... Nor do divine pronouncements on the part of preceding prophets offer him any witness. On the contrary, he perverts almost all the testimonies of the Old and New Testaments by making them into fabrications of his own, as can be seen by anyone who examines his law. It was, therefore, a shrewd decision on his part to forbid his followers to read the Old and New Testaments, lest these books convict him of falsity. It is thus clear that those who place any faith in his words believe foolishly.”```
Islam is a direct copy of Judism and Christanity.
This is Aquinas' take on Islam.
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```Nor do divine pronouncements on the part of preceding prophets offer him any witness```
This is from the nitpicking moslems like to do of the OT proclaiming that Mohammed was the messiah to be
Ofc, none of that holds weight when you look at Jesus vs. Muhammed.
There's a clear winner and fulfiller there
Nowadays, ofc, moslems have access to the Bible online if their governments havent blocked the sites
These are the nitpickers i am referring to
Even then the leaders understood the Bible's weight, and so they banned it from being read
Mhm, when Islam took off during the time between Abu Bakrs acendeance they took Syria and started to burn Scared chirstan texts.
Under the notion that "Kafirs had to be rooted out in both soul and mind".
Any reilgion that had texts dissqualfing islam in theolgy were to be rooted out and destroyed by the will of the Sword.
We know this.
Some people will say the devout are ignorant, small minded and unwilling to open up to new ideas. But to me the opposite is true. It is the skeptical who cannot imagine beyond their learned experience, their precieved reality. They are the ones who are incapable of understanding the un understandable.
The devout are dedicated, driven, and often selfless individuals.
It's the devout in the Salvation Army that give so much of their time to the poor.
It's the devout in the small communities in The South that attract the most people.
It's the devout within and outside of the RCC that evangelize around the world and make people's lives better.
The skeptics are often closed to their own cynicism, selfish, and huddled in their labs.
FAMOUS ATHEISTS' LAST WORDS BEFORE DEATH
1. CAESAR BORGIA—Italian nobleman, politician, and cardinal: "While I lived, I provided for everything but death; now I must die, and am unprepared to die."
2. THOMAS HOBBES—Political philosopher: "I say again, if I had the whole world at my disposal, I would give it to live one day. I am about to take a leap into the dark."
3. THOMAS PAYNE—The leading atheistic writer in American colonies: "Stay with me, for God's sake; I cannot bear to be left alone , O Lord, help me! O God, what have I done to suffer so much? What will become of me hereafter? I would give worlds if I had them, that The Age of Reason had never been published. 0 Lord, help me! Christ, help me! No, don't leave; stay with me! Send even a child to stay with me; for I am on the edge of hell here alone. If ever the Devil had an agent, I have been that one."
4. SIR THOMAS SCOTT—Chancellor of England: "Until this moment I thought there was neither a God nor a hell. Now I know and feel that there are both, and I am doomed to perdition by the just judgment of the Almighty."
5. VOLTAIRE—famous anti-christian atheist: "I have swallowed nothing but smoke. I have intoxicated myself with the incense that turned my head. I am abandoned by God and man.” He said to his physician, Dr. Fochin: “I will give you half of what I am worth if you will give me six months of life." When he was told this was not possible, he said “Then I shall die and go to hell!" His nurse said: “For all the money in Europe I wouldn’t want to see another unbeliever die! All night long he cried for forgiveness.”
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6. ROBERT INGERSOLL—American writer and orator during the Golden Age of Free Thought: "O God, if there be a God, save my soul, if I have a soul!" Some say it was said this way: "Oh God, if there be a God, save my soul, if I have a soul, from hell, if there be a hell!
7. DAVID HUME—Atheist philosopher famous for his philosophy of empiricism and skepticism of religion: He cried loud on his death bed "I am in flames!" It is said his desperation was a horrible scene.
8. NAPOLEON BONAPARTE—French emperor who, like Adolf Hitler, brought death to millions to satisfy his greedy, power-mad, selfish ambitions for world conquest: "I die before my time, and my body will be given back to the earth. Such is the fate of him who has been called the great Napoleon. What an abyss between my deep misery and the eternal kingdom of Christ!”
9. SIR FRANCIS NEWPORT—Head of an English Atheist club, to those gathered around his deathbed: "You need not tell me there is no God, for I know there is one, and that I am in his presence! You need not tell me there is no hell. I feel myself already slipping. Wretches, cease your idle talk about there being hope for me! I know I am lost forever! Oh, that fire! Oh, the insufferable pangs of hell! Oh, that I could lie for a thousand years upon the fire that is never quenched, to purchase the favor of God and be united to Him again. But it is a fruitless wish. Millions and millions of years will bring me no nearer the end of my torments than one poor hour. Oh, eternity, eternity forever and forever! Oh, the insufferable pangs of Hell!”
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10. CHARLES IX—The French king. Urged on by his mother, he gave the order for the massacre of the French Huguenots, in which 15,000 souls were slaughtered in Paris alone and 100,000 in other sections of France, for no other reason than that they loved Christ. The guilty king suffered miserably for years after that event. He finally died, bathed in blood bursting from his veins. To his physicians, he said in his last hours: "Asleep or awake, I see the mangled forms of the Huguenots passing before me. They drop with blood. They point at their open wounds. Oh! That I had spared at least the little infants at the bosom! What blood! I know not where I am. How will all this end? What shall I do? I am lost forever! I know it. Oh, I have done wrong."
11. DAVID STRAUSS—Leading representative of German rationalism, after spending a lifetime erasing belief in God from the minds of others: "My philosophy leaves me utterly forlorn! I feel like one caught in the merciless jaws of an automatic machine, not knowing at what time one of its great hammers may crush me!"
Interesting Napoleon description
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>like Hitler
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@Kermit afaik
Apparently napoleon only said a few incoherent words before he died.
fuck that guy
ill fight him