Message from @Mr.Fisch(炫龙)

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2020-04-18 12:42:00 UTC  

Obviously, you didn't look up the facts or even looking at the facts which TIK presented to you on a silver plate

2020-04-18 12:43:10 UTC  

I've watched the video before. It doesn't matter Hitler called himself a socialist when social democrats at the time did the same and he purged the Strasserists from his ranks

2020-04-18 12:43:24 UTC  

Nazi Germany was about as socialist as China is now

2020-04-18 12:44:04 UTC  

Yeah, China is also becoming more socialist at the time, stil didn't reach the level of the 3rd Reich yet

2020-04-18 12:44:20 UTC  

As well as the EUSSR

2020-04-18 12:44:31 UTC  

>the EUSSR

2020-04-18 12:44:49 UTC  

The libertarian to alt right pipeline was a mistake

2020-04-18 12:45:54 UTC  

LoL, at least Libertarians have an alternative and working system instead of replacing the old one with a new one of old type

2020-04-18 12:45:57 UTC  

😂

2020-04-18 12:46:35 UTC  

Libertarians alread get 80+% of what they want under neoliberalism and it's horrendous

2020-04-18 12:46:54 UTC  

I doubt the last 20% are going to turn out well either

2020-04-18 12:47:57 UTC  

If you mean money socialism, more centralization, more regulation, more war mongering and imperialism, I think not

2020-04-18 12:48:31 UTC  

Do you think we're more or less socialist then in the 50s

2020-04-18 12:48:53 UTC  

Depends on the country

2020-04-18 12:48:59 UTC  

In Germany by far, yes

2020-04-18 12:49:45 UTC  

In most other countries probably about the same with some volatility and ups and downs

2020-04-18 12:50:00 UTC  

If anything countries have become economically more liberal than at any other point in history

2020-04-18 12:50:14 UTC  

Do you think Macron made France less liberal

2020-04-18 12:50:34 UTC  

No, not under laissez-faire markets under Victorian rule oder inside the German Kaiser Reich

2020-04-18 12:50:59 UTC  

The Kaiserreich had a welfare state and strict regulations

2020-04-18 12:51:15 UTC  

What do you mean by liberal? The real sense of the word or the nowadays meaning?

2020-04-18 12:51:17 UTC  

Victorian England was a mercantile empire

2020-04-18 12:51:34 UTC  

The single most impactfull liberalization happened regarding trade

2020-04-18 12:51:45 UTC  

The GATT and WTO being introduced

2020-04-18 12:51:52 UTC  

> The Kaiserreich had a welfare state and strict regulations
@Mr. Nessel
Due to more and more regulations and interventions. Not in the beginning, and even after the state quota remained pretty low

2020-04-18 12:52:17 UTC  

> The GATT and WTO being introduced
@Mr. Nessel
That's not freedom, that's supra governmental regulation

2020-04-18 12:52:24 UTC  

Bismarck was forced to create the welfare state relatively early on

2020-04-18 12:52:43 UTC  

remember Germany only became a country in the 1870s

2020-04-18 12:53:02 UTC  

Yes, that was the problem in the first place

2020-04-18 12:53:07 UTC  

The GATT and WTO forced people to have free trade

2020-04-18 12:53:16 UTC  

That's not free trade

2020-04-18 12:53:21 UTC  

It is

2020-04-18 12:53:31 UTC  

Because it lowered tariffs across the board

2020-04-18 12:53:33 UTC  

That's just convergence of regulations

2020-04-18 12:53:46 UTC  

That's pretty retarded

2020-04-18 12:53:52 UTC  

Yeah, some parts of it have some free trade

2020-04-18 12:54:08 UTC  

No they're exclusively about free trade

2020-04-18 12:54:09 UTC  

But states still don't really care

2020-04-18 12:54:29 UTC  

The GATT is the General agreement on tariff and trade

2020-04-18 12:54:55 UTC  

The WTO the world trade organization which punishes countries for not engaging in free trade

2020-04-18 12:55:15 UTC  

It actually forced Bush to not have steel tariffs for example