Message from @Mr.Fisch(炫龙)
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Obviously, you didn't look up the facts or even looking at the facts which TIK presented to you on a silver plate
I've watched the video before. It doesn't matter Hitler called himself a socialist when social democrats at the time did the same and he purged the Strasserists from his ranks
Nazi Germany was about as socialist as China is now
Yeah, China is also becoming more socialist at the time, stil didn't reach the level of the 3rd Reich yet
As well as the EUSSR
>the EUSSR
The libertarian to alt right pipeline was a mistake
LoL, at least Libertarians have an alternative and working system instead of replacing the old one with a new one of old type
😂
Libertarians alread get 80+% of what they want under neoliberalism and it's horrendous
I doubt the last 20% are going to turn out well either
If you mean money socialism, more centralization, more regulation, more war mongering and imperialism, I think not
Do you think we're more or less socialist then in the 50s
Depends on the country
In Germany by far, yes
In most other countries probably about the same with some volatility and ups and downs
If anything countries have become economically more liberal than at any other point in history
Do you think Macron made France less liberal
No, not under laissez-faire markets under Victorian rule oder inside the German Kaiser Reich
The Kaiserreich had a welfare state and strict regulations
Victorian England was a mercantile empire
The single most impactfull liberalization happened regarding trade
The GATT and WTO being introduced
> The Kaiserreich had a welfare state and strict regulations
@Mr. Nessel
Due to more and more regulations and interventions. Not in the beginning, and even after the state quota remained pretty low
> The GATT and WTO being introduced
@Mr. Nessel
That's not freedom, that's supra governmental regulation
Bismarck was forced to create the welfare state relatively early on
remember Germany only became a country in the 1870s
Yes, that was the problem in the first place
The GATT and WTO forced people to have free trade
That's not free trade
It is
Because it lowered tariffs across the board
That's just convergence of regulations
That's pretty retarded
Yeah, some parts of it have some free trade
No they're exclusively about free trade
But states still don't really care
The GATT is the General agreement on tariff and trade
The WTO the world trade organization which punishes countries for not engaging in free trade
It actually forced Bush to not have steel tariffs for example