@Mr. Nessel
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It's pretty obvious he's a lolbert

Natsoc Germany was a mixed economy period

Private enterprise existed, there was interventionism but it's not socialism
At least not socialism in the Marxian sense

Yeah, that's his point, it was racial socialism, it was national socialism and nothing with mixed econ there. Ofc it wasn't Marxist socialism

To even equate those is retarded. Having a few corporations nationalized or follow certain guidelines with intervention into the market is not racial socialism if you want to compare it to Marxian socialism
Since Marxian socialism demands the economy be holistically in control of the workers' state
National socialism had a mixed economic model aka state capitalism

Mixing up these terms to throw dirt at socialists doesn't work and makes you look like someone with a room temperature IQ

Obviously, you didn't look up the facts or even looking at the facts which TIK presented to you on a silver plate

I've watched the video before. It doesn't matter Hitler called himself a socialist when social democrats at the time did the same and he purged the Strasserists from his ranks

Nazi Germany was about as socialist as China is now

Yeah, China is also becoming more socialist at the time, stil didn't reach the level of the 3rd Reich yet

As well as the EUSSR

>the EUSSR

The libertarian to alt right pipeline was a mistake

LoL, at least Libertarians have an alternative and working system instead of replacing the old one with a new one of old type

😂

Libertarians alread get 80+% of what they want under neoliberalism and it's horrendous

I doubt the last 20% are going to turn out well either

If you mean money socialism, more centralization, more regulation, more war mongering and imperialism, I think not

Do you think we're more or less socialist then in the 50s

Depends on the country

In Germany by far, yes

In most other countries probably about the same with some volatility and ups and downs

If anything countries have become economically more liberal than at any other point in history

Do you think Macron made France less liberal

No, not under laissez-faire markets under Victorian rule oder inside the German Kaiser Reich

The Kaiserreich had a welfare state and strict regulations

What do you mean by liberal? The real sense of the word or the nowadays meaning?

Victorian England was a mercantile empire

The single most impactfull liberalization happened regarding trade

The GATT and WTO being introduced

> The Kaiserreich had a welfare state and strict regulations
@Mr. Nessel
Due to more and more regulations and interventions. Not in the beginning, and even after the state quota remained pretty low

> The GATT and WTO being introduced
@Mr. Nessel
That's not freedom, that's supra governmental regulation

Bismarck was forced to create the welfare state relatively early on

remember Germany only became a country in the 1870s

Yes, that was the problem in the first place

The GATT and WTO forced people to have free trade

That's not free trade

It is

Because it lowered tariffs across the board

That's just convergence of regulations