It's more than cells

Cluster of **A t o m s**

And electricity

If the gnostics are right bodies are just prisons in essence

I agree with them on that at least as far as consciousness is concerned

The real living thing is the brain, the body is just a vessal for it.

**THAT IS WHY WE MUST PUT THE BRAIN INTO JARS AND MAKE MECHS**

Eventually

I recently had this idea of using Musk's neuralink and wireless connection to create a network of artifically kept alive frontal lobes

what do you mean you agree with gnostics as far as consciousness is concerned

You trying to make the labotomites from F:NV?

Robots that have brains in them, which are artificially kept alive.

Well if I give somebody brain damage, his soul remains undamaged but his existence on earth being limited by a prison just gets worse

No body is as good as consciousness unconstrained

Though the gnostics would say material existence itself is cruel and whatnot but I'm more life affirming than that

They also have other weird ideas about a monad and an imperfect monotheistic creator god which is cruel called the demiurge

i thought you were an atheist nessel, guess your a deist then

No

Technically a polytheist but I don't actively worship or make a big deal out of it

Deism would imply me buying into the prime mover argument, which I don't

I think a cyclical universe has been disproved

the universe will die a heat death before it reunifies through gravity

The expansion of the universe I think is something beyond what we can concieve

as it implies there is something beyond it

yeah but expansion might be fake and gay

just because it is expanding at an accelerating rate (allegedly) now doesn't mean that will always be true

There's a lot of uncertainty in it
There's many ppl who buy the expansion theory, others believe it'll shrink again and collapse, others with a big rip and all sorts of weirdness

I don't really believe a lot of the super-weird astrophysics stuff anymore

I could see the argument for expansion based on the observable distances etc. and background radiation

At a certain point it just becomes a masturbation of mathematicians

yeah well the thing is, we can't actually observe the expansion of space like that

it's way too slow

Because matter couldn't have moved faster than light so some expansion must've happened

it's inferred based on redshift in radio waves from the big bang

well we don't really know that you can't go FTL either

Well yes it's kind of the orthodox view though

it might be true now but may not have always been true

perhaps the speed of light can change as well

Whoa

Say FTL can happen and a lot of labcoats will ree autistically

maybe you cannot go faster than light, but maybe the speed of light is not always the same

Anybody follow the Dem primaries?