Message from @Mr. Nessel
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If our universe could spontaneously come from nothing then by the same mechanism virtually any universe could
Really the big assumption is that something can come from nothing
Not the nothing you can observe
@Mr. Nessel Apparently a lot of atheists accept multiverse theory, so, yeah
Multiverse theory seems cool imo
Idk if it would ever exist
It’s cool to think about but I don’t think it’s provable
But it seems cool
I actually buy into creatio ex nihilo but I'm not an atheists
Basically my view of it is creatio ex nihilo. It is unordered, therefore a state of chaos (imagine an infinite space withotu rules like the laws of physics and thing randomly coming in and out of existence). Some things emerge out of chaos which then impose order on part of chaos
Those sort of bubbles of order would be universes and since chaos is scaleless/functionally infinite by extension so is the number of universes and variations thereof
I’m honestly apathetic about the origin of life personally
**Let's create life**
**Let's create life with intelligence, then rival them in an eternal battle for supremacy**
Pretty funny
life is just a cluster of cells tbh
Wait
It's more than cells
Cluster of **A t o m s**
And electricity
I agree with them on that at least as far as consciousness is concerned
The real living thing is the brain, the body is just a vessal for it.
**THAT IS WHY WE MUST PUT THE BRAIN INTO JARS AND MAKE MECHS**
Eventually
I recently had this idea of using Musk's neuralink and wireless connection to create a network of artifically kept alive frontal lobes
what do you mean you agree with gnostics as far as consciousness is concerned
You trying to make the labotomites from F:NV?
Robots that have brains in them, which are artificially kept alive.
Well if I give somebody brain damage, his soul remains undamaged but his existence on earth being limited by a prison just gets worse
No body is as good as consciousness unconstrained
Though the gnostics would say material existence itself is cruel and whatnot but I'm more life affirming than that
They also have other weird ideas about a monad and an imperfect monotheistic creator god which is cruel called the demiurge
i thought you were an atheist nessel, guess your a deist then
No
Technically a polytheist but I don't actively worship or make a big deal out of it
Deism would imply me buying into the prime mover argument, which I don't
I think a cyclical universe has been disproved
the universe will die a heat death before it reunifies through gravity
The expansion of the universe I think is something beyond what we can concieve
as it implies there is something beyond it
yeah but expansion might be fake and gay