I already have months worth of water and food

yes, and there's a time and a place for energy-dense foods

eating none at all seems excessive

especially during the winter

A lot of evopsych stuff basically attributes human intelligence over that of a potato to wheat / carbs

@Norik ye ill have some pizza if someone else pays for it

Didn't hunter gatherers have a more abundant food supply

than who

Farmers

They won through numbers

Humans natural diets are pretty scarce and full of fasting periods but the development of agriculture and foods like wheat/potatoes enabled people to have massive energy surpluses which permitted more developed brain growth and social order / centralization

That's the story anyway

I don't really see how that is possible, farming just puts the gathering at your doorstep

@Kermit the advent of agriculture allowed people to meet their caloric requirements without having to spend all day hunting and gathering, allowing for more energy to be used for more cognitively complex tasks

Hunter gatherers were usually taller than early European farmers ken

how could it possibly be more efficient to gather random shit as opposed to gathering things you grow in a grid

can't have complex engineering if you have to spend all day getting food

division of labor 101

@Iron Nation i thought it was becoming carnivores that enabled australopithecus to develop big brain

As long as there's abundant hunting ground and places for foraging the hunter gatherer lifestyle beats farming nutritionally

Well I was being hyperbolic about being smarter than a potato

What I really meant was that it greatly boosted IQs

having said that it's obvious that intelligence precedes agriculture

I've actually heard that fire did that

Brain mass increased massively with the cooking of food

the actual meme as far as I know is that *cooking* foods allowed for the development of bigger brains

how can it possibly beat farming

you can literally just grow the exact same things you would gather

because more calories

Hunting gets you meats and is less work

You get more variety too

The true secret meme is that nihilism is true and the smartest thing you can do is die without reproducing, which is why we have no record of all the super galactic brain predecessors :^)

you can just keep animals as well

Not just wheat

same thing as crops

keep the food you want nearby and in abundance as opposed to seeking it

You have to account for the population densities at the time

Imagine a few thousand people covering all of Europe's hunting grounds and forage

They weren't numerous but healthy

I don't really know what to think of some of the just-so stories about prehistoric things like the development of fire

My instinct is that eating cooked foods would probably be undertaken by the underclass/the desperate/the crazies