Message from @Iron Nation

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2020-02-25 22:10:40 UTC  

As long as there's abundant hunting ground and places for foraging the hunter gatherer lifestyle beats farming nutritionally

2020-02-25 22:10:47 UTC  

Well I was being hyperbolic about being smarter than a potato

2020-02-25 22:10:57 UTC  

What I really meant was that it greatly boosted IQs

2020-02-25 22:11:29 UTC  

having said that it's obvious that intelligence precedes agriculture

2020-02-25 22:11:35 UTC  

I've actually heard that fire did that

2020-02-25 22:11:47 UTC  

Brain mass increased massively with the cooking of food

2020-02-25 22:11:49 UTC  

the actual meme as far as I know is that *cooking* foods allowed for the development of bigger brains

2020-02-25 22:11:50 UTC  

how can it possibly beat farming

2020-02-25 22:12:03 UTC  

you can literally just grow the exact same things you would gather

2020-02-25 22:12:03 UTC  

because more calories

2020-02-25 22:12:19 UTC  

Hunting gets you meats and is less work

2020-02-25 22:12:26 UTC  

You get more variety too

2020-02-25 22:12:27 UTC  

The true secret meme is that nihilism is true and the smartest thing you can do is die without reproducing, which is why we have no record of all the super galactic brain predecessors :^)

2020-02-25 22:12:30 UTC  

you can just keep animals as well

2020-02-25 22:12:30 UTC  

Not just wheat

2020-02-25 22:12:36 UTC  

same thing as crops

2020-02-25 22:12:55 UTC  

keep the food you want nearby and in abundance as opposed to seeking it

2020-02-25 22:13:19 UTC  

You have to account for the population densities at the time

2020-02-25 22:13:38 UTC  

Imagine a few thousand people covering all of Europe's hunting grounds and forage

2020-02-25 22:13:47 UTC  

They weren't numerous but healthy

2020-02-25 22:14:02 UTC  

I don't really know what to think of some of the just-so stories about prehistoric things like the development of fire

2020-02-25 22:14:36 UTC  

My instinct is that eating cooked foods would probably be undertaken by the underclass/the desperate/the crazies

2020-02-25 22:14:38 UTC  

I am talking about farming vs hunting/gathering in a general sense

2020-02-25 22:14:43 UTC  

They turned dinosaur into chickens smh

2020-02-25 22:15:06 UTC  

there's no way anything inherent in hunting and gathering is superior to farming because you can just grow/raise the exact same foods and eat them

2020-02-25 22:15:11 UTC  

Nowadays farming is much more efficient Charlemagne

2020-02-25 22:15:21 UTC  

It's not comparable to subsistence farming

2020-02-25 22:15:27 UTC  

In a neolithic setting

2020-02-25 22:15:36 UTC  

Without crop rotation or fertilizers

2020-02-25 22:15:48 UTC  

The only inherent advantage is the effect of the craft on the organism doing the hunting

2020-02-25 22:15:48 UTC  

Or windmills

2020-02-25 22:16:02 UTC  

Hunting can keep you fit and farming can make you fat and lazy

2020-02-25 22:16:11 UTC  

Farming basically just has a higher carrying capacity

2020-02-25 22:16:22 UTC  

Which allowed farmers to win the numbers game

2020-02-25 22:16:42 UTC  

Thus spreading throughout Europe

2020-02-25 22:16:55 UTC  

Not really

2020-02-25 22:16:57 UTC  

It's also really low risk

2020-02-25 22:17:09 UTC  

Hunter gatherers had sophisticated stone tools etc.

2020-02-25 22:17:11 UTC  

No real chances of being hurt by prey or tripping over a root

2020-02-25 22:17:36 UTC  

Just the high risk of suicide as you realize you've unwittingly turned yourself into a caloric intake cog in the great machine of liberalism

2020-02-25 22:17:53 UTC  

And that by comfortably farming turnips you've consigned untold billions to hell on earth