Message from @Mr. Nessel

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2020-02-25 22:04:56 UTC  

no

2020-02-25 22:05:02 UTC  

not _now_ but in the past

2020-02-25 22:05:13 UTC  

Just meat and fibre that sounds brutal lol

2020-02-25 22:05:14 UTC  

usually I do 3-4 months without carbohydrates and sugar

2020-02-25 22:05:22 UTC  

probably I will not stop after Lent ends

2020-02-25 22:05:37 UTC  

I have been eating sugars and carbohydrates for the past two months though which is bad

2020-02-25 22:06:25 UTC  

your body does need carbohydrates

2020-02-25 22:06:49 UTC  

the problem is they've become like 80% of people's diets

2020-02-25 22:06:50 UTC  

Food science is full of a lot of crazy memes but the more common objection to carbs is they make you fat

norik you only need carbs if you dont eat enough meat

2020-02-25 22:06:57 UTC  

carbs have high energy density and not nutrients

2020-02-25 22:07:06 UTC  

I can top that
How about going months without buying new food because of the yellow peril

2020-02-25 22:07:09 UTC  

if you just get calories from protein and fat then you are good

2020-02-25 22:07:20 UTC  

I already have months worth of water and food

2020-02-25 22:07:21 UTC  

yes, and there's a time and a place for energy-dense foods

2020-02-25 22:07:45 UTC  

eating none at all seems excessive

2020-02-25 22:07:53 UTC  

especially during the winter

2020-02-25 22:07:59 UTC  

A lot of evopsych stuff basically attributes human intelligence over that of a potato to wheat / carbs

@Norik ye ill have some pizza if someone else pays for it

2020-02-25 22:08:59 UTC  

Didn't hunter gatherers have a more abundant food supply

2020-02-25 22:09:10 UTC  

than who

2020-02-25 22:09:15 UTC  

Farmers

2020-02-25 22:09:22 UTC  

They won through numbers

2020-02-25 22:09:28 UTC  

Humans natural diets are pretty scarce and full of fasting periods but the development of agriculture and foods like wheat/potatoes enabled people to have massive energy surpluses which permitted more developed brain growth and social order / centralization

2020-02-25 22:09:37 UTC  

That's the story anyway

2020-02-25 22:09:37 UTC  

I don't really see how that is possible, farming just puts the gathering at your doorstep

2020-02-25 22:09:49 UTC  

@Kermit the advent of agriculture allowed people to meet their caloric requirements without having to spend all day hunting and gathering, allowing for more energy to be used for more cognitively complex tasks

2020-02-25 22:10:04 UTC  

Hunter gatherers were usually taller than early European farmers ken

2020-02-25 22:10:04 UTC  

how could it possibly be more efficient to gather random shit as opposed to gathering things you grow in a grid

2020-02-25 22:10:21 UTC  

can't have complex engineering if you have to spend all day getting food

2020-02-25 22:10:27 UTC  

division of labor 101

@Iron Nation i thought it was becoming carnivores that enabled australopithecus to develop big brain

2020-02-25 22:10:40 UTC  

As long as there's abundant hunting ground and places for foraging the hunter gatherer lifestyle beats farming nutritionally

2020-02-25 22:10:47 UTC  

Well I was being hyperbolic about being smarter than a potato

2020-02-25 22:10:57 UTC  

What I really meant was that it greatly boosted IQs

2020-02-25 22:11:29 UTC  

having said that it's obvious that intelligence precedes agriculture

2020-02-25 22:11:35 UTC  

I've actually heard that fire did that

2020-02-25 22:11:47 UTC  

Brain mass increased massively with the cooking of food

2020-02-25 22:11:49 UTC  

the actual meme as far as I know is that *cooking* foods allowed for the development of bigger brains

2020-02-25 22:11:50 UTC  

how can it possibly beat farming