Message from @Pictures At An Exhibition

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2020-03-04 21:29:37 UTC  

If you live in a blue district then consider moving

2020-03-04 21:30:58 UTC  

But waaaaah I just want to watch anime and complain about how bad everything is

2020-03-04 21:32:13 UTC  

Though honestly if you’re young the best thing you can do is to just read and get yourself the education you were denied by boomers

2020-03-04 21:32:24 UTC  

Library cards are free

2020-03-04 21:32:28 UTC  

Hey! That's what I'm doing.

2020-03-04 21:32:30 UTC  

So is talking to your local priest

2020-03-04 21:33:05 UTC  

That too. A month ago I confessed to my priest at a local Cathedral.

2020-03-04 21:33:10 UTC  

I’m at my local church library right now

2020-03-04 21:33:29 UTC  

The best part of the Catholic Church is that it has money and a long history of reverence and study of classical texts

2020-03-04 21:33:58 UTC  

There are probably plenty of Good Books™️ and somebody to talk to you about them

2020-03-04 21:34:03 UTC  

If you know who to ask

2020-03-04 21:35:30 UTC  

Speaking of texts, this arrived a few days ago:

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/672211350436708356/684876702450843685/IMG_20200305_053500.jpg

2020-03-04 21:36:08 UTC  

Nice

2020-03-04 21:36:10 UTC  

Can't wait to sink my teeth into this writer. He's apparently a Catholic thinker.

2020-03-04 21:36:15 UTC  

Chesterton is based

2020-03-04 21:36:45 UTC  

Alright what's going on here?.

2020-03-04 21:37:01 UTC  

A while back I also read *The Collected Works of Joseph de Maistre* as translated by Jack Lively.

2020-03-04 21:37:08 UTC  

Very based book.

2020-03-04 21:38:57 UTC  

Not familiar with Maistre

2020-03-04 21:39:00 UTC  

Who dat

2020-03-04 21:40:13 UTC  

I felt that parts of it echoed what Endeavour talks about in his *Lies of the Enlightenment* series.

2020-03-04 21:42:21 UTC  

@Norik French philisophe who was vehemently against the growing liberalism in France circa the French Revolution and wrote a lot of very good essays on his thoughts against liberalism and traditional conservative values.

2020-03-04 21:43:29 UTC  

Ah

2020-03-04 21:43:51 UTC  

Honestly not that familiar with frenchies from that time

2020-03-04 21:44:06 UTC  

Besides the meme ones like Voltaire or Tocqueville

2020-03-04 21:45:31 UTC  

He is one of the many from France who established the intellectual attack on liberalism, believing its faults to be ideological and intellectual rather than simply the roots of a ruthless constitution or war.

2020-03-04 21:47:48 UTC  

@Norik Reading anything from anyone reven remotely associated to the Enlightenment is a big risk imo. There's too much bullshit.

2020-03-04 21:48:40 UTC  

Eh

2020-03-04 21:48:44 UTC  

The Social Contract which Endeavour talks about in his series is one such example I've come to dislike.

2020-03-04 21:48:58 UTC  

It’s overrated by the general population but there’s certainly value to certain ideas

2020-03-04 21:49:04 UTC  

Like property rights

2020-03-04 21:49:43 UTC  

Hobbes’ description of government as the natural order arising from the nature of man is probably right at its core

2020-03-04 21:49:45 UTC  

Why don’t you read siege

2020-03-04 21:52:53 UTC  

@Norik That presupposes that man was able to create civilization out of their want. And to presuppose such a thing is to fall into the trap of liberalism again. We know what Hobbes and Locke didn't back then now, that our ancestors worked in communities and not simply the perfect anarcho-primitivist wet dream. We formed civilizations and became social beings out of a need to survive, not out of a rational intellect. That is simply the divine order of God.

2020-03-04 21:53:35 UTC  

That’s literally Hobbes’ argument in the Leviathan lmao

2020-03-04 21:53:56 UTC  

He argues for monarchy with exactly that framework

2020-03-04 21:54:20 UTC  

Haven't read the Leviathan. If that's the case, Maistre and Hobbes are more similar than they'd comfortably like to believe.

2020-03-04 21:54:45 UTC  

Oh.

2020-03-04 21:54:52 UTC  

I misread your message.

2020-03-04 21:54:59 UTC  

Bruh moment.

2020-03-04 21:55:26 UTC  

I don’t think I’m a liberal, but I do think they’re at least partially right