Message from @Cavalier

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2020-03-17 16:28:00 UTC  

2020-03-17 16:32:01 UTC  
2020-03-17 16:32:46 UTC  

@herewanna do vc?

2020-03-17 16:33:11 UTC  

how do they know how to pray for you better

2020-03-17 16:33:17 UTC  

makes no sense

2020-03-17 16:33:30 UTC  

my prayer will not be more understood because it went through gods secretary

2020-03-17 16:34:07 UTC  
2020-03-17 16:34:27 UTC  

They are secretaries of specific departments (patronage).

2020-03-17 16:35:14 UTC  

James 5:16

2020-03-17 16:35:14 UTC  

2020-03-17 16:36:11 UTC  

The prayer of righteous men is much more effective

2020-03-17 16:36:27 UTC  

just because we pray for one another does not mean we should pray directly to saints.

2020-03-17 16:36:29 UTC  

and considering these people in heaven are pure and don't sin, surely it is much more effective

2020-03-17 16:36:57 UTC  

"Sorry but im not praying to Mary"
Hey
Want to hear a secret?

2020-03-17 16:37:07 UTC  

no

2020-03-17 16:37:24 UTC  

It doesn't matter
We don't pray to Mary
We ask Mary to pray for us

2020-03-17 16:37:49 UTC  

i would rather just pray to god myself

2020-03-17 16:38:50 UTC  

Look, the prayers of righteous men are much more effective. The prayers of the saints are described as incense. Paul heavily encourages people to pray for each other.

2020-03-17 16:39:09 UTC  

Considering these things, it is wise to sometimes (not always) ask saints to pray for you.

2020-03-17 16:40:12 UTC  

perhaps, ill have to read more into it

2020-03-17 16:41:17 UTC  

Just say something simple like "Holy Mother of God, pray for us" or "St. George, pray for us"

2020-03-17 17:43:49 UTC  

@Hail So you.....pray to Mary to ask her to pray for you?

2020-03-17 17:46:24 UTC  

Also, asking a living person to pray for you is quite different than asking a dead one that resides in Heaven

To say that the saints can hear your prayers is saying they are like God and implying they are at least somewhat omniscient

2020-03-17 17:47:49 UTC  

If Peter were alive and had a presence here on Earth right now I’d for sure ask him to pray for me

But he’s not, he’s with the Lord

2020-03-17 17:57:15 UTC  

Aside from this, Paul *explicitly* states in 1 Timothy 2 that “there is *one* mediator between God and mankind, the man Christ Jesus”

That’s the significance of the veil in the temple and why the cloth tore in two, the barrier that separated us and Heaven was broken and we can now communicate with God freely as we are, via *Christ and His sacrifice alone*

We don’t need any priests, saints, or Popes to do it for us all the time

2020-03-17 19:20:39 UTC  

@Argent7771 HOLY SHIT HAHAHAHA

2020-03-17 19:20:48 UTC  

Josh Hawley has outflanked the Dems on corona

2020-03-17 19:20:59 UTC  

what

2020-03-17 19:21:06 UTC  

He endorsed UBI

2020-03-17 19:21:18 UTC  

Up to $2200 a month for families of 5

2020-03-17 19:22:36 UTC  

So to encourage building families?

2020-03-17 19:22:52 UTC  
2020-03-17 19:23:05 UTC  

basr

2020-03-17 19:30:00 UTC  
2020-03-17 19:30:03 UTC  

You see this?

2020-03-17 19:30:24 UTC  

The Dems are being outflanked on every front due to corona

2020-03-17 19:30:29 UTC  

Its hillarious to watch

2020-03-17 19:32:10 UTC  

>1446 for a family of three

2020-03-17 19:32:44 UTC  

add 33

2020-03-17 19:32:59 UTC  

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