Message from @Dilbert Do-Hop

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2020-03-30 16:28:16 UTC  

Because they don't like the sanctions

2020-03-30 16:28:24 UTC  

They want Russian gas and oil

2020-03-30 16:28:37 UTC  

Is he trying to get killed?

2020-03-30 16:29:01 UTC  

Orban likes Israel though

2020-03-30 16:29:02 UTC  

Talk about based

2020-03-30 16:29:03 UTC  

He’s naming the corona

2020-03-30 16:29:17 UTC  

@EYEFORKNOWLEDGE156 Nope. Does corona "speculate with money?"

2020-03-30 16:29:27 UTC  

Yes

2020-03-30 16:29:29 UTC  

Does it "not have a homeland but feels like it owns the whole world?"

2020-03-30 16:29:45 UTC  

It does feel like it owns the world

2020-03-30 16:30:06 UTC  

It once lived in China and now feels like taking over the world

2020-03-30 16:30:18 UTC  

Obviously corona

2020-03-30 16:30:36 UTC  

I like how talks of "hidden enemies" always evoke the same idea to some. How it's so normalized is kind of funny.

2020-03-30 16:30:45 UTC  

@Marcher_Cavalier I can concur, people within our circle's state that this group are so called "Based". But Visgrad group is quite liberial within there ecnomy. Instead of moving farther East to secure (at least for a while) the Social securtiy of there nation. Visgrad instead has moved farther away and supported the West who on average are more submirssive than the East.

2020-03-30 16:31:17 UTC  

Were you have a "Liberial" ecnomy you allow the Social foundations of your nations to be degaded over time.

2020-03-30 16:33:20 UTC  

Tbf they came out of being dominated by the east for quite a while

2020-03-30 16:33:24 UTC  

From my point of view, Eastern Europe Still has deep wounds from the Communists, And have unfairinly have placed most of the blame of Communism on the Russian people.

2020-03-30 16:34:09 UTC  

Eastern Europe is in a bad spot being wedged between western liberalism and the memory of the Soviet Union

2020-03-30 16:34:16 UTC  

^

2020-03-30 16:34:22 UTC  

Actually, I think that is reality. Obviously some hate more than others, some hate very little, but I think that is correct on average.

2020-03-30 16:34:42 UTC  

Best thing for them would be for countries like Germany and France to snap out of it and take the whole block in a different direction

2020-03-30 16:34:43 UTC  

And all of them still have the horrors of communism in their back closets.

2020-03-30 16:36:06 UTC  

In reality, The situation is more complex as the East is trying to tear down the Historic foundations of the Central european people. The east on Average is submirssive but not to the extent the West is.

2020-03-30 16:37:21 UTC  

I just hope that there will be a geopolitical schism within Nato between the Europeans and Americans which takes European part off of the course of liberalism

2020-03-30 16:37:49 UTC  

Without American influence we would already be more favourably disposed to illiberal states like Russia

2020-03-30 16:38:05 UTC  

I am pro Russia, but even though alot of areas in Europe bordering Russia has Russian majorities, I think Russia needs to chill a bit, even if they only want to take over Russian majority areas and no more then that, its still justifying fears from Europe that Russia wants to take over the world. As for southeast Europe, I cannot wait for Greece and Bulgaria to divide East Thrace, and for Enosis with Cyprus, driving the Turks from the northern island. Also Russia needs to seriously build a wall on the border with central asia or get them to stop pouring in.

2020-03-30 16:38:42 UTC  

southwest European govts paying NA govts money to keep migrants is actually kind of successful

2020-03-30 16:38:49 UTC  

which is weird

2020-03-30 16:39:26 UTC  

Putin is not based. For he has still a postive outlook on Communism. Putin defends the "Honor" of the old union with Reilgious Fervor. By ethier denying Attrocites done, or by simply outright becoming a submirsive himself.

2020-03-30 16:39:30 UTC  

Russia if it wants more majority Russian land should prbably look at Kazakhstan and I think it will since the Chinese are coopting Russia's sphere of influence

2020-03-30 16:39:35 UTC  

yes

2020-03-30 16:40:03 UTC  

We need an Acutal "European" Union.

2020-03-30 16:40:09 UTC  

Actually yes, Russians have had a long ethnic presence in Northern Kazakhstan

2020-03-30 16:40:11 UTC  

Ideally

2020-03-30 16:40:59 UTC  

I seriously wonder what will happen to France and Germany post Macron and Merkel

2020-03-30 16:41:20 UTC  

The last two anchors fixing us in place

2020-03-30 16:41:22 UTC  

Uzbekistan, Kyrgyzstan, Tajikistan and Turkmenistan has sizeable Russian minorities, however Russia has sizeable minorities from those countries, so maybe population exchange for those countries.

2020-03-30 16:41:24 UTC  

Probably just another similar person will fill their shoes

2020-03-30 16:41:32 UTC  

Otherwise I see us drifting to the right

2020-03-30 16:41:50 UTC  

And once the right controls the EU I doubt Euroskepticism will be as prevalent