Message from @Larry

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2020-04-07 20:38:23 UTC  

Its fine @AH-64

2020-04-07 20:42:01 UTC  

Bro I love Masaman. Good Stuff on Genetics

2020-04-07 20:42:09 UTC  

Same

2020-04-07 20:45:39 UTC  

I'll concede Malta is mediterranean. I must've misremembered or been confused because of Fst maps

2020-04-07 20:47:13 UTC  

I'll make sure to look up stuff for Cyprus again just to be sure I'm not talking nonsense

2020-04-07 20:48:01 UTC  

People are confusing Genetic cluster maps, admixture and haplogroups for all being the same thing and its very annoying. If we were to use haplogroups to determine what someone is then we would have to say that the pastoralists of Central west Africa are white since most of their haplogroup is R1B

2020-04-07 20:48:36 UTC  

I'm aware haplogroups aren't good for determining race, just migration patterns

2020-04-07 20:49:04 UTC  

And I know there are downsides to Fst but I must've gotten it mixed up nonetheless

2020-04-07 20:49:28 UTC  

By the way Uralics are more than 99%<European Caucasoid and less than 1%>Mongoloid, most of their Asiatic populations is dying out, so in my opinion is better to include all of them.

2020-04-07 20:50:30 UTC  

@Mr. Nessel Masaman posted a graph showing Cypriots something around 50-60% Euro admixture. I dont know where he got that from, Ill have to ask him his source for this.

2020-04-07 20:50:41 UTC  

Uralics are pretty heterogeneous so I'd have to look into them.

2020-04-07 20:50:55 UTC  

As in Uralics are a set of peoples

2020-04-07 20:51:06 UTC  

I'd expect admixtures etc. to vary

2020-04-07 20:52:33 UTC  

I remember some youtuber who is Cypriot Greek who had a lot of jewish ancestry. Was interesting

2020-04-07 20:52:42 UTC  

I believe that most of the non Euro admixture in cyprus actually isnt due to phoenician but instead from Neolithic Anatolians/Caucasus peoples.

2020-04-07 20:52:50 UTC  

They have like 4 Asiatic groups with 20.000 population in total and a lot of them have russian admixture.

2020-04-07 20:53:03 UTC  

Neolithic Anatolians would be basically white

2020-04-07 20:53:05 UTC  
2020-04-07 20:53:24 UTC  

I'd expect most of Cyprus' admixture to come from it being a trade hub since the bronze age

2020-04-07 20:53:35 UTC  

fair number of it is yes

2020-04-07 20:53:38 UTC  

but not the bulk

2020-04-07 20:54:17 UTC  

I don't Remember the number exactly I must look it up

2020-04-07 20:54:36 UTC  

Regarding Anatolians I'd like to look up eventually if the Hittites were white

2020-04-07 20:55:04 UTC  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/672211350436708356/697187716873453568/unknown.png

2020-04-07 20:56:04 UTC  

I remember hearing Anatolian farmers descended from the Natufians

2020-04-07 20:56:10 UTC  

Was that revised or what

2020-04-07 20:57:35 UTC  

Anatolian farmers were originally from the fertile crescent and were pushed north by the Semites.

2020-04-07 20:57:41 UTC  

Correct

2020-04-07 20:59:03 UTC  

So they're not from Iran like the Z93 arrow implies

2020-04-07 20:59:06 UTC  

Sumerians were probably anatolian farmers or closely related to them

2020-04-07 20:59:34 UTC  

Aren't Sumerians a language isolate

2020-04-07 20:59:40 UTC  

Nvm Elamites

2020-04-07 21:00:02 UTC  

Yes, but that is not means much

2020-04-07 21:01:37 UTC  

@Mr. Nessel @TheEternalSearcher 𐠊𐠔 Interesting thing is that Dravidians are just like Indo Aryans, invaders from the west, not indigenous, originally they were farmers from Iran possibly related to Elamites. the Indigenous peoples are Veddoids.

2020-04-07 21:02:27 UTC  

I thought Dravidians are native to India and got displaced by Indo Aryans in the North

2020-04-07 21:02:45 UTC  

I'm sure they're related somehow to population in Iran somehow

2020-04-07 21:03:06 UTC  

Because afaik there were Dravidian enclaves in Iran or Pakistan

2020-04-07 21:03:09 UTC  

They are as native to the subcontinent as the Inuit who invaded from Siberia and killed off the Dorset natives are native to the Americas.

2020-04-07 21:03:47 UTC  

Interesting

2020-04-07 21:03:51 UTC  

When they conquered the subcontinent most of them admixed with the Veddoids

2020-04-07 21:03:59 UTC  

Most of their DNA is Veddoid