Which is why I think we should be more "autistic"

And focus way more on argumentation

all political movements are echo chambers. You fight with your enemies and in order to do that you attempt to make your group internally consistant and coherent

at least then people might actually consider us rational and worthy of consideration

lol no

Yes but moving outside avatars into irl is the way forward

We just need to burst out into the general discussion

History is guided by competing power structures trying to push society to their desired direction as they fight with other power structures. Each power structures fights to advance their own respective power interest.

being worried about being doxxed is a problem

We were doing that, but it has kinda stopped

Why would some centerist or non-aligned person join a group that is constantly fighting with itself and doesnt have a concrete platform?

@Techpriest of house Roundeye I'm not saying they definitely will

> being worried about being doxxed is a problem
@Sirens I'm 16 getting doxxed could be horrible for me

No mass movement would exists without the proper conditions that would make many desire for radical change, Coronavirus may be bad but it is only making people want their consumer goods back instead of ending consumerist liberalism itself.

But we'd have a better chance if we focused more on rational discourse as opposed to the same "mUh nAtiOn" or "mUh pEoPLe" bullshit

i'm 38 so i dont give a fuck, but understand your position

@Sirens fair enough

I mean... nationalism is by definition "muh nation" and "muh people"

so thats a tough sell to most

Do you think non-nationalists will care about our feelings for our nations?

yeah who actually cares about nation. thats pretty cringe and bluepilled

@Techpriest of house Roundeye well that's true

the nation is where its at look at the SNP or MAGA campaigns they used nationalism successfully

so to say its dosent work isnt correbt

6 Sources of Power:
- Force
- Wealth
- Law
- Norms
- Ideas
- People

I think nationalism might become normalized in a few years

the SNP in Scotland used nationalism and bootstrapped it with SJW ideology after the fact

But if we want to argue for immigration or trade restrictions, we'd be better off tackling the economic issues that people actually give a shit about

as opposed to just "mUh nAtiOn bRo"

@Minister of Propaganda well yeah but would that be ideal for us or Liberal forces?

@ManDefault36 I think we can do both

Economics is one of the most heavily debated things in Nationalism

I know I sound like an enlightened centrist but yeah

> @Minister of Propaganda well yeah but would that be ideal for us or Liberal forces?
@RIP Skelly no idea

to combat economic issues is trade restrictions

@Techpriest of house Roundeye Not really within the reactionary sphere. Nobody engages much with econ

you need to push the nationalist message like trump did, like brexit did

I am one of the few Reactionaries who cares about understanding material conditions

Our movement needs to be 2 faced, basically

think about it this way the current globalism model is under pressure due to corona. Corona might be the force required to push economic reform on nations that can actually do that ie. accelerating automation

its about the economy, the idea of post economic thinking wont go anywhere