Message from @Galahad
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Independent of Nato west of the pond
Nato is Americanism at this point.
how about no NATO
disband it
Yes
and have a euro army
im fine with no nato
based
but I dont see abig distinciton between NATO and the EU
It's not entirely opposed
to me theyre both sides of the same American vassal coin
But the potential for a schism is large
have to neuter Americanism as a concept first.
EU goes along with america because easter europe are just american puppet states
and they have equal votes in Eu assembly alongside bigger states
so they can decide EU foreign policy
i mean look at ukraine
Also institutional inertia
CIA and EU approved "revolutions"
EU is in favour of peace in Ukraine afaik
yes but ukraine wants to join the EU
So what
with the exception of caucasus and finland
all other countries around russia are just artificial states
who just LARP as haveing some long history or culture
because its a shithole
Baltics, vex?
Indeed galahad
EU needs to cleanse all the atlantists within their ranks
before they can be independant
otherwise they are a glorified american puppet
im not from western europe so im not as keyed into this
@Dilbert Do-Hop what about baltics
The baltics are around Russia yet have a long history, you forgot to mention them.
From my pov Brexit is actually a means to make holding on to European states easier
but ive not really heard people describe the EU as having the will or the constituent parts to throw off American hegemony
Each one is different.
Even using a blanket term like baltics probably isn't right.
@Dilbert Do-Hop their birth rate is pitiful
and they have mass emigration
they wont exist in next 100 years
nobody will even remember them
Macron and whatnot have been arguing for the EU to distance itself from America for a while now @Galahad
I dont get the point though
you want international finance neoliberalism with European characteristics?
yes
as opposed to what
AMERICAN NEOLIBERALISM
No I don't but you're not getting an independent foreign policy with dozens of weak small European Nato members
its the same really