so i want to understand more conventional people's view on this

The thing is that the EU would have an easier time asserting itself and has a strategic interest in becoming closer with Russia

Which could mean culture flowing downstream from Realpolitik

Not to mention a neoliberal anti Americanism would be unconvincing

i was going to mention that

When there already exists a strong anti Americanist current in European countries

EU-russia alliance seems to be somewhat possible

it also depends on how distant they get from the chinese

China is a really shitty ally towards Russia

They've been encroaching on Russia's sphere of influence in central Asia

Fucked them with pipeline deals

yep

i dont really think that theyre allies

russia has been cooperating with some US intelligence in the past few years

seems like the chessboard is shifting

I wonder if American autism will shift from Russia to China

Hopefully, China building their strength on deception will backfire. Especially against the sleeping bear.

Because Russia would be an asset in reigning China in

oh the establishment here would love it

some retarded faux jingoism to scream at the chinese

though it seems increasingly like China did do some really nasty things regarding Covid

Don't get me wrong, I want China to crash and burn
It's an existential threat but this drum beating around covid is kind of meh

America should've realized they're beign fucked with at least a decade ago

@Mr. Nessel That would be great but unfortunately the older generations are very Russophobic due to the Cold War and many younger Democrats hate them for supposed "subversion" of American politics.

the russia shit is so annoying

Yeah it seems like America just likes to make more and more enemies

i have ties to the russosphere so its even more retarded to me

Eventually they'll overstretch

Already sort of happening

Syria is basically lost

@Louis XIV (aka 1685Violin) you cant fight a global force on a national level

As is Iraq

And Lybia

you would need a global force of nationalism to combat globalism

which sounds like a paradox

Supranationalism

"I never thought I'd fight side by side with an Arab."
"How about a nationalist?"
"Aye, I could do that."

@Skellington I understand that but keep in mind that the comment is from a YouTube channel that is for _remain_. Meaning, Pro EU and the person who made the comment is from a progressive.

It'd be amazing for the EU to inherit Russia's sphere of influence alongside gainign them as an ally

@Louis XIV (aka 1685Violin) ik

It'd be a complete stranglehold on the Mediterranean