Message from @Galahad

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2020-04-17 20:57:22 UTC  

its the same really

2020-04-17 20:57:25 UTC  

THATS WHAT IM SAYING

2020-04-17 20:57:26 UTC  

VEX

2020-04-17 20:57:28 UTC  

lol

2020-04-17 20:57:31 UTC  

yes i understand

2020-04-17 20:58:09 UTC  

but i dont see how it can be fixed
without dismantling global institutions like NATO

2020-04-17 20:58:32 UTC  

i also have a weird POV on things like this

2020-04-17 20:58:40 UTC  

so i want to understand more conventional people's view on this

2020-04-17 20:59:40 UTC  

The thing is that the EU would have an easier time asserting itself and has a strategic interest in becoming closer with Russia

2020-04-17 20:59:55 UTC  

Which could mean culture flowing downstream from Realpolitik

2020-04-17 21:00:12 UTC  

Not to mention a neoliberal anti Americanism would be unconvincing

2020-04-17 21:00:33 UTC  

i was going to mention that

2020-04-17 21:00:39 UTC  

When there already exists a strong anti Americanist current in European countries

2020-04-17 21:00:44 UTC  

EU-russia alliance seems to be somewhat possible

2020-04-17 21:00:58 UTC  

it also depends on how distant they get from the chinese

2020-04-17 21:01:13 UTC  

China is a really shitty ally towards Russia

2020-04-17 21:01:31 UTC  

They've been encroaching on Russia's sphere of influence in central Asia

2020-04-17 21:01:38 UTC  

Fucked them with pipeline deals

2020-04-17 21:01:46 UTC  

yep

2020-04-17 21:01:53 UTC  

i dont really think that theyre allies

2020-04-17 21:02:12 UTC  

russia has been cooperating with some US intelligence in the past few years

2020-04-17 21:02:18 UTC  

seems like the chessboard is shifting

2020-04-17 21:02:42 UTC  

I wonder if American autism will shift from Russia to China

2020-04-17 21:02:54 UTC  

Hopefully, China building their strength on deception will backfire. Especially against the sleeping bear.

2020-04-17 21:02:55 UTC  

Because Russia would be an asset in reigning China in

2020-04-17 21:02:57 UTC  

oh the establishment here would love it

2020-04-17 21:03:07 UTC  

some retarded faux jingoism to scream at the chinese

2020-04-17 21:03:35 UTC  

though it seems increasingly like China did do some really nasty things regarding Covid

2020-04-17 21:04:24 UTC  

Don't get me wrong, I want China to crash and burn
It's an existential threat but this drum beating around covid is kind of meh

2020-04-17 21:04:46 UTC  

America should've realized they're beign fucked with at least a decade ago

2020-04-17 21:04:47 UTC  

@Mr. Nessel That would be great but unfortunately the older generations are very Russophobic due to the Cold War and many younger Democrats hate them for supposed "subversion" of American politics.

2020-04-17 21:05:05 UTC  

the russia shit is so annoying

2020-04-17 21:05:13 UTC  

Yeah it seems like America just likes to make more and more enemies

2020-04-17 21:05:19 UTC  

i have ties to the russosphere so its even more retarded to me

2020-04-17 21:05:23 UTC  

Eventually they'll overstretch

2020-04-17 21:05:29 UTC  

Already sort of happening

2020-04-17 21:05:35 UTC  

Syria is basically lost

2020-04-17 21:05:37 UTC  

@Louis XIV (aka 1685Violin) you cant fight a global force on a national level

2020-04-17 21:05:44 UTC  

As is Iraq

2020-04-17 21:05:52 UTC  

And Lybia

2020-04-17 21:05:56 UTC  

you would need a global force of nationalism to combat globalism