Yeah, seemingly still didn't watch the vid 😂

Remember the party when he joined just was very small

No shit

He vetoed plans to nationalize several key industries, too. Chemistry for example. Otherwise, we wouldn't be having this discussion for very long

I've watched many of TIKs videos
Don't assume everyone will fall for that shit

He also had a certain respect for organic development, probably reinforced by Feder

That's the thing. Treating economic theory like dogma will ALWAYS hinder you and limit your options.

whos TIK
you mean TIK TOK?

Judging Goebbels by his rhetoric, for example, he didn't. He sounded almost exactly like a Marxist revolutionary

If nationalizing was the best option economically for my country I wouldn't oppose it
I will never be as dogmatic about private enterprise and nationalization as lolberts

@vexmasina44
https://youtu.be/dlXqFgqOviw

If

Lmao what is that

It's jsut like socialism because race the proletariat or something

Really capitalism is just libertarian socialism except the proletariat is replaced with capitalists

And the nonstates hands it all to that class

See that retardation

>It's jsut like socialism because race the proletariat or something
For real, kinda this

Reject capitalism
return to feudalism

Oh misread that

A state acting in the interest of a group when not even nationalizing the entire economy is not socialist

> Reject capitalism
> return to feudalism
@vexmasina44
Based

You gotta use that term properly and sparingly

Then no state would be socialist, however

Or barely any

Soviet Russia had a planned economy so it is

Planned as in all major buisness being state run

Did they socialize prostitution though?

Did they also plan on collapsing in 1991
was that also part of their planed economy

Yes, but they didn't plan with the common good in mind

I think it was outlawed by Soviets Splaet

They had this ambition but in the end, interest groups prevailed

But they didn't socialize girlfriends therefore the soviet union wasn't socialist because they didn't socialize everything.

The issue with the Soviet model is that the statistics for economic development are toilet paper and most state directed development focused on failing branches of the economy which means they provided an incentive for factories to actually not produce as much as possible and reward dysfunctional branches

The Soviet Union was most definitely socialist

The Soviets made their economic calculations using prices from abroad, that alone suggests to me that the problems of central planning are more fundamental than bad leadership

Yeah so like subsidies?

I don't think the major issue was pricing

What they also did is just lower prices without keeping up production

So someone on paper could afford all the food they want but in practice it was first come first served

Slack labour is another point people like to make but it really exists under any system
"I pretend to work so they pretend to pay" is something you see even today