Socialism, as Marx defined it, as a position between the overthrow of capitalism and communism. It was a position where the workers owned the means of production and where all of the economy was nationalized.

> When the workers own the means of production
@Skeleton
Yes, that's the Marxist socialist version.

> Socialism is the nationalization of all or almost all of the official economy
@Mr. Nessel
Yes, that's the statist version

Mr.Fisch would be in a Gulag under most systems probably

xD

> The shadow economy exists of course
@Mr. Nessel
Yes, because the logic of himan action is axiomatic

No it's the normal version

German Workers Party, Aussig, Bohemia, 1903

> Mr.Fisch would be in a Gulag under most systems probably
@Mr. Nessel
Yes

Finally. Found it

Don't assume your lolbert worldview is the standard of all things

You don't get to redefine things

Prussian socialism is different from Marxian socialism.

LoL, Socialism is collective ownership of the means of production. That's even the normie definition.

I think he actually denied the natsocs were Prussian socialists though

@Mr.Fisch（炫龙） Because it's the consensus

You all have the same notion with different nuances

Yes

That's also my definition

The actual normie definition is Norway is socialism

Which lolberts agree with actually

Lolbert demsoc horseshoe confirmed

Cringe

National socialism even has some czech influences, if you ask me. I can't be too specific because I have yet to read Jan Hus

Hitler had a mixed economy with some corporatist elements thrown in.

imagine thinking Norway is socialist 🤣

Lol

The party when Hitler joined it barely has anything to do with what he shaped it to be

Kicking out the Strasserist element fundamentally transformed the party

Hitler was a bit of a wildcard, yeah

Yeah, seemingly still didn't watch the vid 😂

Remember the party when he joined just was very small

No shit

He vetoed plans to nationalize several key industries, too. Chemistry for example. Otherwise, we wouldn't be having this discussion for very long

I've watched many of TIKs videos
Don't assume everyone will fall for that shit

He also had a certain respect for organic development, probably reinforced by Feder

That's the thing. Treating economic theory like dogma will ALWAYS hinder you and limit your options.

whos TIK
you mean TIK TOK?

Judging Goebbels by his rhetoric, for example, he didn't. He sounded almost exactly like a Marxist revolutionary

If nationalizing was the best option economically for my country I wouldn't oppose it
I will never be as dogmatic about private enterprise and nationalization as lolberts

@vexmasina44
https://youtu.be/dlXqFgqOviw