Message from @DisCrypto

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2020-02-19 00:12:24 UTC  

?

2020-02-19 00:12:33 UTC  

what things and what terms

2020-02-19 01:04:39 UTC  

also
@clossington in Heidegger's own view his project was not to establish a "new" philosophy from the ground up, he saw it more in line with reviving the pre-socratic traditional, trying to understand it and get back to it thus escaping the pitfalls he saw in the western tradition since Plato

2020-02-19 01:07:03 UTC  

Help me understand the pre-Socratic tradition

2020-02-19 01:08:06 UTC  

He rejected idealism and forms in favor of something like thrown-ness and essentialism

2020-02-19 01:08:30 UTC  

I really don’t know or understand Heidegger

2020-02-19 01:51:26 UTC  

That was just a joke riffing on your reeee I know very little about Heidegger but saying he is trying to revive a pre Socratic tradition makes him seem like the kind of guy who would build a trireme to fight an aircraft carrier

2020-02-19 02:01:31 UTC  

Pull a Civ 4 spearman vs tank

2020-02-19 02:43:30 UTC  

@clossington Thrownness really belongs to being-there as a state-of-being-in-the-world, it is a phenomenological description of a state of being, so it doesn't really directly relate to idealism as a polar opposite. Safe to say Heidegger's relationship with idealism wouldn't be as simple as saying that he outright rejects it.

2020-02-19 02:43:52 UTC  

As to giving you a rundown on Heidegger's view of the pre-socratic tradition, or lack thereof since it was a very loose unity of thinkers, that would take more time and space then I should probably put in this channel.

2020-02-19 02:44:10 UTC  

I could DM you a mini essay I guess

2020-02-19 02:53:51 UTC  

Sure

2020-02-19 02:53:57 UTC  

Links would be nice

2020-02-19 04:59:12 UTC  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/668911631937437727/679552545424932887/image0.jpg

2020-02-19 05:05:57 UTC  

>internally screaming

2020-02-19 05:10:20 UTC  

heyo

2020-02-19 05:10:37 UTC  

not quite

2020-02-19 05:10:44 UTC  

Christians only

2020-02-19 05:11:03 UTC  

Intelligence isn't the issue

2020-02-19 05:11:09 UTC  

God is

2020-02-19 05:11:17 UTC  

Or God can tell you

2020-02-19 05:11:44 UTC  

I mean, I wouldn't expect Wakanda

2020-02-19 05:12:00 UTC  

More like our nice bros

2020-02-19 05:13:52 UTC  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/668911631937437727/679556235548295178/image0.jpg

2020-02-19 05:14:43 UTC  

Different groups are attracted to different sins, in my view (on average). Some groups might be more attracted to violent sins, while others are more subtle

2020-02-19 05:15:32 UTC  

Homogeny does help societal integrity, don't get me wrong

2020-02-19 05:16:07 UTC  

But I'd rather live with black christians than white pagans

2020-02-19 05:16:44 UTC  

Not a chance myself

2020-02-19 05:16:48 UTC  

Oh hi Charlemagne

2020-02-19 05:16:51 UTC  

Would rather be around white people

2020-02-19 05:17:16 UTC  

To each his own

2020-02-19 05:17:30 UTC  

There are plenty of black "Christians"

2020-02-19 05:17:41 UTC  

I suppose it depends on how Christian you mean

2020-02-19 05:17:48 UTC  

Good point

2020-02-19 05:18:00 UTC  

Fake christians are a thing

but they will still destroy the coherency of a more advanced society if you let them in

2020-02-19 05:19:18 UTC  

If you let too many in, definitely that can cause issues.

2020-02-19 05:19:30 UTC  

Maybe it's a grass is always greener thing, I am biased from having to live in or near majority black areas and I am tired of it

even if the blacks are a moral people, having moral blacks in a white society will still destroy the integrity of the society because, in nature, there is no such thing as multiculturalism

2020-02-19 05:20:24 UTC  

Big bunches of different cultures/ethnicities being bunched together in the same area with little to no overlapping values/culture is a recipe for disaster