Message from @JBlackjackP
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Didn’t Heidegger hate aesthetics or aestheticism?
Something like that
I barely understand Heidegger most of the time
he hated modern aesthetics
thought they were just a follow on from subjectivism established by the subject/object spilt
Fair enough
you have to understand that Heidegger is trying to bring back a pre-Socratic understanding of truth
Descartes is a disliked figure to say the least
There’s something about uprooting 2200 years of philosophy and reconstructing a new one from the ground up that’s a little pretentious, especially if you have to create a thousand new words to go along with it and Heidegger is a difficult writer
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he didn't create a thousand new words he just correctly translated them
but yes he did understand the gravity of his position
he was never overly disrespectful to the thinkers that came before him
Heidegger is a very difficult writer to understand, but it isn't for his word usage but the subjects he is trying to speak on
It would have helped if he used the correct terms for things
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what things and what terms
also
@clossington in Heidegger's own view his project was not to establish a "new" philosophy from the ground up, he saw it more in line with reviving the pre-socratic traditional, trying to understand it and get back to it thus escaping the pitfalls he saw in the western tradition since Plato
Help me understand the pre-Socratic tradition
He rejected idealism and forms in favor of something like thrown-ness and essentialism
I really don’t know or understand Heidegger
That was just a joke riffing on your reeee I know very little about Heidegger but saying he is trying to revive a pre Socratic tradition makes him seem like the kind of guy who would build a trireme to fight an aircraft carrier
Pull a Civ 4 spearman vs tank
@clossington Thrownness really belongs to being-there as a state-of-being-in-the-world, it is a phenomenological description of a state of being, so it doesn't really directly relate to idealism as a polar opposite. Safe to say Heidegger's relationship with idealism wouldn't be as simple as saying that he outright rejects it.
As to giving you a rundown on Heidegger's view of the pre-socratic tradition, or lack thereof since it was a very loose unity of thinkers, that would take more time and space then I should probably put in this channel.
I could DM you a mini essay I guess
Sure
Links would be nice
>internally screaming
heyo
not quite
Christians only
Intelligence isn't the issue
God is
Or God can tell you
I mean, I wouldn't expect Wakanda
More like our nice bros
Different groups are attracted to different sins, in my view (on average). Some groups might be more attracted to violent sins, while others are more subtle
Homogeny does help societal integrity, don't get me wrong
But I'd rather live with black christians than white pagans