Message from @Tome_Enthusiast
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looks like 7pm
7pm los angeles probably?
looks like he might be doing some IRL thing
and people are trying to trash it
that is interesting.
@here PETITION: Removing the Defeaning within the VC.
So the moldbug interview never ended up happening?
its not on the channel you linked
@Larry Objectively, I'd say Erdogan is brilliant. He's a good leader FOR TURKEY. He knows damn well that anti-white ideology is hegemonic in the West and he's exploiting it. He's a Right-Wing nationalist Turkey, but pushes Left-Wing egalitarianism in Europe because he knows it weakens them. Look into the Denk party in the Netherlands. It's essentially a Turkish interest party which whines about "WaYtHiThIm" in Europe while supporting Erdogan in Turkey. Same reason they're lashing out at Greece right now. It's purely strategic. If I was a Turk in his position, I'd be doing the exact same thing. From our perspective, Turkey is a hostile state and Erdogan's an enemy who is advancing his own interests at the expense of ours. So in that respect, I don't like the guy, but I'll admit, I dream of a European leader with half the spine he has.
So essentially, Turkey is undermining the West the same way Israel does. Nationalism for us, open boarders liberalism for you.
Thats not having a spine
He is just picking all the low hanging fruits from the tree that others have planted
It takes little intelect
theyre winning by default, not through some sort of struggle
The interest of Turkey and the Globohomo agenda line up on this one. The loser is the European people.
yes
@Larry They're "based" from their own standpoint, but for the West, they're an enemy. They're doing what's good for Turkey, but that's bad for us. There won't be any working together.
What's the best argument that can be made against the Nazis from the Right?
Nazis are egalitarian
Heh. How so? Their nationalism?
Also, is there anything for me to gain from reading Schmitt, as a reactionary?
Yeah, nazi nationalism was basically national egalitarianism
They failed. At least when we larp it's for a civilization that lasted like 2000 years or so.
they were big on equality of opportunity. Everyone gets sent to public education. High inheritance tax. Abolition of aristocratic privileges.
Inheritance tax is fucking gay
They were progressives. Believed in whig history. Hitler praised the Enlightenment revolution. Killed priests.
@Tome_Enthusiast Schmitt is ultra based. Every reactionary whether traditionalist, neo, or romantic should read him.
Do you have a off @Pseudo-Analysist
I don't think so, let me check
I have his writings on war
War is based
> They failed. At least when we larp it's for a civilization that lasted like 2000 years or so.
@Skellington Bringing up the fact that they failed will only get you a lecture on the astronomical odds they were facing, and bringing up actions, like the Anschluss or the pursuit of pan-Germanism in general, that made the situation worse will only result in appeals to the Polish suppression of the East Germans and Hitler's repeated attempts to treatise with them and the other powers.
Though I agree. There are better models of civilization to ape.
also franco, also salazar. probably some others that i left out. after these fascist dictators die the countries just get assimilated into liberalism and use the fact they used to be fascist as a beating stick against them
@Pseudo-Analysist Discord hasn't been letting me download PDFs for whatever reason. Could you DM it to me so I can try again later?
@Skellington I agree, but he tries to use Franco as a bludgeon against me, since I prefer him to Hitler. As well as Dollfuss, though that one is harder for him to try and spin.
Almost as if the succession problem is the crippling weakness of the ideological equivalent of an emergency immune response. It's a hold until something better can be established, not an end of itself. Hence why the Austrians had the right idea.
The fascist dictators dieing and their countries going progressive is not really an good argument either. That could happen to any nation in the current world we live in. Monarchies by and large are just as pozzed these days. Plus someone could make the case for communism by pointing out the fact that the eastern bloc nations collapsed and became more nationalistic than all the more progressive western states.