Message from @RIP Skelly

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2020-03-07 00:08:43 UTC  

The system has to die for that to happen

2020-03-07 00:09:37 UTC  

Which it might. The Xinhai rebellion happened because foreigners were building railroads and it lead to the death of the Qing

2020-03-07 00:10:22 UTC  

Have China continue to kick the hornets' nest that is Hong Kong and it might actually kill itself

2020-03-07 00:12:17 UTC  

The only states that are competing with the Neoliberal "Democratic" System of the West, economically and power wise, is China, Russia, and Saudi Arabia. I see the Saudis still keeping hold, China is still doing well, how is Russia doing?

2020-03-07 00:12:41 UTC  

(Iran and North Korea are merely just trying to survive so they don't count here)

2020-03-07 00:34:52 UTC  

Russia has always been weird. With Putins new political reforms he seems to take a more pro western stance on surface level but if you look a little deeper is mostly a cosmetic change. Russia is still being Russia in that its going its own way and not really changing for anyone else in any meaningful way.

2020-03-07 00:36:39 UTC  

I would say its more suseptible to liberal changes than China just because the parlimentary system there allows a level of intrests goup pressure to be applied and gives more power to rich people. Chinas rich people that influence the government tend to get arrested at a much higher rate than their russian counterparts

2020-03-07 00:37:30 UTC  

Economically: China, the West, and Saudi Arabia are becoming closer, I don't see that much with Russia minus exporting natural gas to Europe

2020-03-07 00:38:22 UTC  

Because of American sanctions on Russia they are becoming self sufficient

2020-03-07 00:38:33 UTC  

IDK much about the Saudis but China is getting closer but as always they arnt playing by the wests rules

2020-03-07 00:38:59 UTC  

Their economic participation is more merchantile than it is free market

2020-03-07 00:39:14 UTC  

Define saudi arabia getting closer to the west
tell me, where are the gay parades and sexual education of kids in kinder garden

2020-03-07 00:39:35 UTC  

i dont see that happening in KSA

2020-03-07 00:40:14 UTC  

Obviously not, but Western pressure is still present, I mean they now allow women to drive, trying to be more open to tourist, etc.

2020-03-07 00:40:52 UTC  

>they only allow women to drive in the presence of their husband

2020-03-07 00:40:54 UTC  

The fact that it relies on the American Empire for protection should mean that there is definitely alot of pressure to liberalize

2020-03-07 00:41:30 UTC  

And, don't forget, Saudi Arabia is now being more friendly to Israel in the name of fighting Iran

2020-03-07 00:41:47 UTC  

>why would a tourist go to a tyranical dictatorship and possibley get arrested over breaking some trivial law

2020-03-07 00:41:50 UTC  

Before the KSD had a ace in the oil trade so they could resist the American Empires social demands but now the US has the shale revolution

2020-03-07 00:41:57 UTC  

that blocker is gone

2020-03-07 00:42:09 UTC  

exactly

2020-03-07 00:42:13 UTC  

Now US protection comes at a price

2020-03-07 00:42:24 UTC  

their valuable resource has alot less weight than it did when they originally allied economically

2020-03-07 00:42:34 UTC  

Keep in mind the americans will still protect saudi arabia because of the petro dollar and saudi control of OPEC

2020-03-07 00:42:42 UTC  

@vexmasina44 It is possible they can exempt tourists of that law if tourism becomes too profitable. Saudi Arabia is trying to diversify their economy with Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman

2020-03-07 00:42:45 UTC  

despite the shale oil

2020-03-07 00:42:51 UTC  

It seems that while they have bribed Global interest with Oil concessions, Global interest isnt too keen on just the Oil concessions and want political leverage as well for protection

2020-03-07 00:43:13 UTC  

I doubt anyone would want to visit that hellhole for any reason

2020-03-07 00:43:37 UTC  

Many already go to the UAE for Tourism (Dubai)

2020-03-07 00:43:42 UTC  

not to metnion that saudi arabia is getting bombed and destroyed by fucking yemen
which is poorer and smaller than KSA itself

2020-03-07 00:43:43 UTC  

And the Americans have other concerns than oil when it comes to currency now

2020-03-07 00:43:53 UTC  

there are real compeditors to the greenback emerging

2020-03-07 00:44:00 UTC  

UAE is a completly different beast compared to KSA

2020-03-07 00:44:12 UTC  

tbh not even the emiratis like the saudis

2020-03-07 00:44:49 UTC  

The petro dollar system is under threat from ouside factors now. The money men dont seem to know what to do about it either.
there is alot of burying of heads in sand

2020-03-07 00:45:05 UTC  

>go to saudi arabia
>get killed by a yemeni ballistic missile/drone attack
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2020-03-07 00:45:28 UTC  

Pretty sure most of that tourism is religous though

2020-03-07 00:45:37 UTC  

Mecca is in the KSD after all

2020-03-07 00:46:05 UTC  

3 Million Mecca Visits a year, 16 Million Visits in just 2017

2020-03-07 00:46:21 UTC  

Stewardship of Mecca is the only reason why the House of Saud is tolerated