@ItzMidrex I don't think a civil war as in the kind in the 1860s is going to happen anytime soon. The focus right now should be on building political power and infrastructure for the far-right. Not preparing for a war. No White Guilt did an excellent stream last year on why thinking about civil wars is counterproductive and dangerous. Having said that, some form of separation or segregation must happen in America and Canada. Europe still has time for repatriations. I hope that can be done peacefully. I think it'll come down to whether or not some gentile elites will get a conscience and do the right thing. If not, then we'll be in for a dark future. But that's still far down the line. Right now, we need to focus on building a political force, not on a theoretical war.

Facts

Hoping for a “decline” or a boogaloo is just infantile wishful thinking

I understand, but the elites so far haven’t given me any hint they intend on doing the right thing, and elections aren’t going to get us anywhere.

Saying Europe still has time for repatriations is delusional. In germany almost half the people my age and younger have immigrant background. You would never get a majority for such an act, because all the immigrants and all center and left will vote against it (most importantly the elites are against it, as we saw with the hard seller act the general population has little say in these things). the german apolitical mainstream is neoliberal center left.
It might be an even worse situation in britain. Places like Poland and hungary have much more of a chance

Yeah boogaloo is just the libertarian gamer’s wet dream, and they’re only concerned about “muh second amendment”, I gave up on that idea a long time ago. Secession may be a future option, but one would have to hope the elites would allow for such a thing, my point is that conflict could be inevitable whether or not we’re hyping it up now or not.

Yeah white European fertility rates are well below recovery levels.

i agree with that thesis
the economy is doing well and the masses already have their bread and circusses so no civil war in our lifetime
however the only country i see having a civil war in the near term is South africa

@Fighting Gold That's a bit misleading. Germany is still 80% German and 90% white. They're listed as foreign if one parent was born outside of Germany. Most immigrants to Germany are from Europe. So a lot of them could have one German and one French parent or something like that. It's still concerning, but not quite so bad.

In America, on the other hand, that actually is the case.

thats fair but i dont know how much can be expected of european immigrants to germany

@Fighting Gold Are you German? Just wondering?

and regardless, the elites and mainstream are against it, firmly

ye

Where I live it’s still over 90% white, and Iowa is one of the whitest states, but the problem is that as long as whites are becoming minorities in the states that hold most the power, we’re in for a rough ride politically here.

we really copy all the democrat talking points and boadcast them in state tv, with no equivalent for fox news. we even use the english terms in discussions, "gender" etc

Regardless, the goal needs to be building a political movement. If there's no infrastructure built, we'll lose whatever conflict happens in the future.

im certainly in favor of infrastructure

good thing they have Patriotic Alternative in Uk mark Collet seems to be a swell guy
you should make a similar political party in Canada
altho it remains to be seen whther the PA will succed in UK or will get overran by feds remains to be seen. its better than nothing

is it a good idea to build official structures so early on?

Building a movement gets difficult when you’re dealing with cuckservatives who still refuse to stick up for their race, and pretend we can still win over minority votes.

Oh
did you mean
((((civic nationalism)))

Things like AmRen and Patriotic Alternative are exactly what we need right now. Not right-wing militias.

also people dont get demoralized if our political efforts fail
it took the globalist left almost 100 years to get to the point where they are today
or 50 years if you think this globalist project started in the 60's with the hippie movment

The silver lining of the American system is it allows for greater federalism/state autonomy if that's where the popular will is. One possible solution would be to force both political parties (or maybe even just one) to embrace a more state-centric view and allow greater autonomy (so conservative/white states are not forced to embrace migrants or globohomo while liberal states are not forced to cease abortions or whatever).

chances are even if we start our political movement now we wont see it succed in our lifetime

This is one viable alternative I don't see brought up a lot (probably because it involves everyone giving up some power), but it certainly seems to be possible: look at Hungary and Poland doing whatever the fuck they want in the EU.

State centric views have been thrown out since the civil war. Plus even the republicans in power in my state allow for the immigration problems we’re all familiar with. That’s why there’s a town by me that’s been taken over by Hispanics.

This is just my two cents but if you make your intentions clear from the start you be fought against heavily and crushed. But if you build inofficial or even hidden/ camouflaged infrastructure first then you can expand and grow with little push-back. And then one day when youre fired from your job or deplatformed from youtube you can just say " well fuck you ill just work for my friend over here/ go to bitchute" - just an example

Just because the current view favors a more powerful central government doesn't mean we can't take a different direction in our own times.

That will be pretty difficult, the central government has been absorbing more power throughout most of our history, it will take a lot of effort to convince those with power to reverse this trend.

yeah

probably still easier than stopping all nonwhite immigration when half the country is nonwhite though

If we could allow states to decide whether or not they’ll allow immigrants to settle within their borders that would be a huge win.

precisely

So even if we suffer political losses from states like Texas flipping blue we’ll still have a grip on where we go culturally/demographically in our immediate areas.

right

We might need to start focusing our arguments on the 10th amendment.

and then have right-minded people move to places like iowa or kentucky

Yes precisely.

to solidify their positions on these issues and make sure they don't fall through the same pitfalls 20 years from now