Message from @ItzMidrex

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2020-03-16 16:52:50 UTC  

i agree with that thesis
the economy is doing well and the masses already have their bread and circusses so no civil war in our lifetime
however the only country i see having a civil war in the near term is South africa

2020-03-16 16:56:35 UTC  

@Fighting Gold That's a bit misleading. Germany is still 80% German and 90% white. They're listed as foreign if one parent was born outside of Germany. Most immigrants to Germany are from Europe. So a lot of them could have one German and one French parent or something like that. It's still concerning, but not quite so bad.

2020-03-16 16:56:52 UTC  

In America, on the other hand, that actually is the case.

2020-03-16 16:58:01 UTC  

thats fair but i dont know how much can be expected of european immigrants to germany

2020-03-16 16:58:24 UTC  

@Fighting Gold Are you German? Just wondering?

2020-03-16 16:58:27 UTC  

and regardless, the elites and mainstream are against it, firmly

2020-03-16 16:58:30 UTC  

ye

2020-03-16 17:01:14 UTC  

Where I live it’s still over 90% white, and Iowa is one of the whitest states, but the problem is that as long as whites are becoming minorities in the states that hold most the power, we’re in for a rough ride politically here.

2020-03-16 17:02:06 UTC  

we really copy all the democrat talking points and boadcast them in state tv, with no equivalent for fox news. we even use the english terms in discussions, "gender" etc

2020-03-16 17:02:27 UTC  

Regardless, the goal needs to be building a political movement. If there's no infrastructure built, we'll lose whatever conflict happens in the future.

2020-03-16 17:02:49 UTC  

im certainly in favor of infrastructure

2020-03-16 17:05:11 UTC  

good thing they have Patriotic Alternative in Uk mark Collet seems to be a swell guy
you should make a similar political party in Canada
altho it remains to be seen whther the PA will succed in UK or will get overran by feds remains to be seen. its better than nothing

2020-03-16 17:06:03 UTC  

is it a good idea to build official structures so early on?

2020-03-16 17:07:09 UTC  

Building a movement gets difficult when you’re dealing with cuckservatives who still refuse to stick up for their race, and pretend we can still win over minority votes.

2020-03-16 17:07:34 UTC  

Oh
did you mean
((((civic nationalism)))

2020-03-16 17:08:32 UTC  

Things like AmRen and Patriotic Alternative are exactly what we need right now. Not right-wing militias.

2020-03-16 17:10:04 UTC  

also people dont get demoralized if our political efforts fail
it took the globalist left almost 100 years to get to the point where they are today
or 50 years if you think this globalist project started in the 60's with the hippie movment

2020-03-16 17:10:10 UTC  

The silver lining of the American system is it allows for greater federalism/state autonomy if that's where the popular will is. One possible solution would be to force both political parties (or maybe even just one) to embrace a more state-centric view and allow greater autonomy (so conservative/white states are not forced to embrace migrants or globohomo while liberal states are not forced to cease abortions or whatever).

2020-03-16 17:11:23 UTC  

chances are even if we start our political movement now we wont see it succed in our lifetime

2020-03-16 17:11:25 UTC  

This is one viable alternative I don't see brought up a lot (probably because it involves everyone giving up some power), but it certainly seems to be possible: look at Hungary and Poland doing whatever the fuck they want in the EU.

2020-03-16 17:12:08 UTC  

State centric views have been thrown out since the civil war. Plus even the republicans in power in my state allow for the immigration problems we’re all familiar with. That’s why there’s a town by me that’s been taken over by Hispanics.

2020-03-16 17:12:36 UTC  

This is just my two cents but if you make your intentions clear from the start you be fought against heavily and crushed. But if you build inofficial or even hidden/ camouflaged infrastructure first then you can expand and grow with little push-back. And then one day when youre fired from your job or deplatformed from youtube you can just say " well fuck you ill just work for my friend over here/ go to bitchute" - just an example

2020-03-16 17:14:46 UTC  

Just because the current view favors a more powerful central government doesn't mean we can't take a different direction in our own times.

2020-03-16 17:18:50 UTC  

That will be pretty difficult, the central government has been absorbing more power throughout most of our history, it will take a lot of effort to convince those with power to reverse this trend.

2020-03-16 17:19:15 UTC  

yeah

2020-03-16 17:19:45 UTC  

probably still easier than stopping all nonwhite immigration when half the country is nonwhite though

2020-03-16 17:20:47 UTC  

If we could allow states to decide whether or not they’ll allow immigrants to settle within their borders that would be a huge win.

2020-03-16 17:21:08 UTC  

precisely

2020-03-16 17:21:40 UTC  

So even if we suffer political losses from states like Texas flipping blue we’ll still have a grip on where we go culturally/demographically in our immediate areas.

2020-03-16 17:21:48 UTC  

right

2020-03-16 17:22:04 UTC  

We might need to start focusing our arguments on the 10th amendment.

2020-03-16 17:22:05 UTC  

and then have right-minded people move to places like iowa or kentucky

2020-03-16 17:22:20 UTC  

Yes precisely.

2020-03-16 17:22:29 UTC  

to solidify their positions on these issues and make sure they don't fall through the same pitfalls 20 years from now

2020-03-16 17:23:36 UTC  

But one could even start arguing for more power even at the county level, since a lot of places are still deeply conservative even when just a few shitlib counties control the state. California and Texas in a decade or two are good examples.

2020-03-16 17:24:50 UTC  

baby steps

2020-03-16 17:25:04 UTC  

and yeah

2020-03-16 17:25:24 UTC  

which is why california has been bleeding out ~100,000 white people a year for nearly two decades now

2020-03-16 17:25:31 UTC  

most of them conservative-leaning

2020-03-16 17:25:31 UTC  

I used to live in Texas, and the conservatives there held probably the most state centric views I’ve ever seen, they kinda have their own culture, and it makes sense considering their history. That’s something I think a lot of people could learn/grow from.

2020-03-16 17:25:45 UTC  

the dirty little secret is texas would be blue by now if it wasn't for all those californians