People in power are screwing us demographically to flip votes we already know this, but maybe it will depend on how much conservatives here are willing to take once we can’t win elections. But you might be right because any mutiny will end in martial law, so I don’t see how we could put up such a fight. Plus too many people buy into the idea that we can just change people’s minds and sway votes our way.

no its literally impossible without people in power

and you ask how much people will take? all of it

listen to the rivers of blood speech, the developments were clear many decades ago but nothing has been done and now London is minority english

‘Tis true, we’re screwed without institutional/government power.

To be fair compared to England we Americans are more well armed, and probably have more people willing to fight, plus people with military experience on our side. But the real question is whether or not people will actually want to fight when push comes to shove. And if it’d even be a fair fight. I’d guess not.

you do know cuckservatives dont see race, so what meaningful thing do you believe they would revolt against? Maybe obligatory castration of every male?

what are your assumptions here

True true

Can’t exactly redpill some they’ll only be drooling over “muh freedomz” “muh rights”.

I’ve had this conversation with numerous otherwise “solid” conservatives of all different ages. They all unironically think certain immigrant groups like Hispanics or South Asians will one day just start voting republican because they’re “natural conservatives.”

Republicans are in some ways even more dangerous than democrats

Because they refuse to see the clear threat at hand

And will call you a “racist” for noticing obvious patterns and facts

Yeah man they’re so freaking dumb I tried to convince some boomers otherwise but they’re too scared of being “wacist”.

Because ya know, it’s not okay to stand up for your race if you’re white.

im getting a boomer vibe from you ItzMidrex

@ItzMidrex I don't think a civil war as in the kind in the 1860s is going to happen anytime soon. The focus right now should be on building political power and infrastructure for the far-right. Not preparing for a war. No White Guilt did an excellent stream last year on why thinking about civil wars is counterproductive and dangerous. Having said that, some form of separation or segregation must happen in America and Canada. Europe still has time for repatriations. I hope that can be done peacefully. I think it'll come down to whether or not some gentile elites will get a conscience and do the right thing. If not, then we'll be in for a dark future. But that's still far down the line. Right now, we need to focus on building a political force, not on a theoretical war.

Facts

Hoping for a “decline” or a boogaloo is just infantile wishful thinking

I understand, but the elites so far haven’t given me any hint they intend on doing the right thing, and elections aren’t going to get us anywhere.

Saying Europe still has time for repatriations is delusional. In germany almost half the people my age and younger have immigrant background. You would never get a majority for such an act, because all the immigrants and all center and left will vote against it (most importantly the elites are against it, as we saw with the hard seller act the general population has little say in these things). the german apolitical mainstream is neoliberal center left.
It might be an even worse situation in britain. Places like Poland and hungary have much more of a chance

Yeah boogaloo is just the libertarian gamer’s wet dream, and they’re only concerned about “muh second amendment”, I gave up on that idea a long time ago. Secession may be a future option, but one would have to hope the elites would allow for such a thing, my point is that conflict could be inevitable whether or not we’re hyping it up now or not.

Yeah white European fertility rates are well below recovery levels.

i agree with that thesis
the economy is doing well and the masses already have their bread and circusses so no civil war in our lifetime
however the only country i see having a civil war in the near term is South africa

@Fighting Gold That's a bit misleading. Germany is still 80% German and 90% white. They're listed as foreign if one parent was born outside of Germany. Most immigrants to Germany are from Europe. So a lot of them could have one German and one French parent or something like that. It's still concerning, but not quite so bad.

In America, on the other hand, that actually is the case.

thats fair but i dont know how much can be expected of european immigrants to germany

@Fighting Gold Are you German? Just wondering?

and regardless, the elites and mainstream are against it, firmly

ye

Where I live it’s still over 90% white, and Iowa is one of the whitest states, but the problem is that as long as whites are becoming minorities in the states that hold most the power, we’re in for a rough ride politically here.

we really copy all the democrat talking points and boadcast them in state tv, with no equivalent for fox news. we even use the english terms in discussions, "gender" etc

Regardless, the goal needs to be building a political movement. If there's no infrastructure built, we'll lose whatever conflict happens in the future.

im certainly in favor of infrastructure

good thing they have Patriotic Alternative in Uk mark Collet seems to be a swell guy
you should make a similar political party in Canada
altho it remains to be seen whther the PA will succed in UK or will get overran by feds remains to be seen. its better than nothing

is it a good idea to build official structures so early on?

Building a movement gets difficult when you’re dealing with cuckservatives who still refuse to stick up for their race, and pretend we can still win over minority votes.

Oh
did you mean
((((civic nationalism)))

Things like AmRen and Patriotic Alternative are exactly what we need right now. Not right-wing militias.

also people dont get demoralized if our political efforts fail
it took the globalist left almost 100 years to get to the point where they are today
or 50 years if you think this globalist project started in the 60's with the hippie movment