Labor theory of value is Marxist in origin.

yes, but the problem is, that makes everyone equally poor

Perhaps in words, but it exists innately within capitalism

unspoken.

It exists within supply and demand.

because if you follow Marxist theory, we all basically end up farming for ourselves, getting water for ourselves, and building our own house

The point of automation is to decouple human labor from production. But the means of production is still owned by someone.

what happens when you automate the entire process of making and maintaining a machine?

Which explains why countries that adhere to marxist doctrine appear to move backwards in time...

As was said, the entire point of automation is to make widgets cheaper.

which would ultimately the goal of automation

And just because the product of a machine is cheap doesn't mean you give it away. You still expect profit.

Otherwise why build or purchase the machine?

But on the axis of supply and demand

If you've created a huge supply, but you've impoverished the people in the process by cutting out labor

labor is also a shiny object. and it puts some ppl to dissadvantage... children, elderly, disabled

lets say we have 4 machine systems. 1 to make houses, 1 to create food, 1 to distribute water, 1 to maintain, replace, or increase the output of the other 2 systems. All these systems are fully autonomous, meaning its sub components work to get the materials it needs to operate.

If you create huge economic surplus due to automation, you just find different ways of utilizing that surplus. You're going to allocate productivity in different sectors. The ownership class will enjoy more spoils.

You wind up with a massive supply, with little demand due to lack of funds

you now have all your basic human needs met without any human labor

who owns these machines? and how much do they cost? I mean, you don't need to make more machines, the 4th one does it for you. So how much does the bread cost? the water? the house?

no humans are needed to keep this system going or maintain it

the only need for a human is to say when more of something is needed

Grenade, nobody is making those machines for free.

Nobody is investing the time and money to build them expecting no return.

it doesn't matter why they made it, once it is made how much does it cost to maintain?

Yes it matters why they made it because they control them.

machines do... if you go from that point of automotive evolution

ai controls them

1 person verse....literally the world?

They can say if you don't pay me for the use of my machine you don't get the products they make.

and the world revolts

This conversation has become a hypothetical atop a hypothetical.

or they keep using those machines until they die

and someone else makes one

or someone steals the 4th machine

or the tech for it

This discussion is starting to smell like commies.

Or until war breaks down and breaks anywhere between one to four machines

or hacks it to make new copy of everything for them

machines revolt and we extinct... that usualy happen