"The Pursuit of Happyness"

ah

havent seen it

Don't sweat it. Just throwing a barb. 😛

BTW, you were right in our last conversation. I forget what you said before I had to go but I remember you were right.

but this all comes down to: if people are not laboring to dig up shinny rocks, how does the rich person get shinny rocks?

unless he makes a machine to get him shinny rocks

in which case, why bother offering to trade bread for shinny rocks?

are we arguing that through automation we will reach zero scarcity economics and thus the only viable option is to have a welfare nation?

why not fuck off to a private island made of shinny rocks, then just give some shinny rocks to some murders to free up space in land that has more shinny rocks

yes, Arch

have you consitered the people trying to develop automation are also the people who lose the most influince in a zero scarcity economy?

grenade, those who have the natural ability to develop automation will be more valuable than those who do not.

so if you're a IQ 130+ software engineer you are going to be inherently more valuable than some IQ 100 joe average.

i dont think they are mindlessly heading toward their own dethronement consitering they are the elite. elites tend to fail to understand their inferiors not fail to understand their own machinations

"shiny rocks" have nothing to do with it.

There is no such thing as a zero scarcity economy.

There is always scarcity.

then resources are the only thing of value

Nonsense.

tell me, what is the point of wealth?

and where does it come from?

Ingenuity and creativity are also of value. Not everyone has these traits.

okay, so art.

Pareto principle. 90%+ of art is worthless shit.

Only some art is valuable.

zero scarcity society discribes one where the base nessessitys of all humans on earth are met to an extent you dont actually have to produce human labor in order to provide them

all art is worthless

unless someone really really wants it

Tell Kanye that.

people really really want it

That's what makes something valueable?

If nobody wants something it doesn't have value.

I can't sell anyone a handful of lint.

look at the most "valuable" works of art. Most of it is just a place holder for money.

that is not to say there will be no objects of value within the society but a society that can suport its survival without ever needing to put effert toward that is a zero scarcity

a rich person said "i like this", paid money for it, then said its worth x.

Have you ever taken an economics course?

but it gives enjoyment. its beauty

and it just keeps getting traded around rich people for that much money

btw.. .since at the course of this debate: https://twitter.com/joerogan/status/1013918293600555009