not to mention they have an enormous market share... just imagine how muc hmarket share will be freed up to allow many other UPS and Fed Ex type of businesses to enter the industry

i mean you say it does but it competes so poorly that its private competitors already beat it so badly it costs the government money rather than make the governemnt money

okay then, whats the point? sounds like youre kinda support my idea lol 😛

if it does a poor job at it, why force citizens to pay for it?

if you killed usps you wouldent see a 3rd competitor come up, youd just see the 2 at the top kill anything that got in their way to get stronger

DHL was a thing

kinda still is

naw, you dont know that. youre just presuming. of course many more competitors will spring up bcuz that is the nature of innovation and startups

sorry just popping in with some thoughts ocassionally

entrepreneurs always thinking of ways to offer better services at lower prices .... good for the consumer!

am i arguing with an ancap? xD

i dont really considermyself an ancap 😉

more objectivist leaning .... market liberal, classical liberal, etc

next youll tell me the government should completely deregulate bussiness to the point child labor is legal again

child labor was already on the decline before child labor laws came in due to rapid economic growth and modernization

but if a 12 y/o wants work experience or to apprentice, who are you to say no to that?

Academic Agent did a good video on child labor too

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tg_UuhHDcGI

that's stepping into the realm of child consent

work experience can potentially be much more valuable than a typical run of the mill education.... especially after 12 years of public indoctrination schooling .... they come out with no real world skills.... we should be encouraging children to explore skillsets and different technical disciplines that they enjoy

and boy oh boy is there a good reason for that not being a thing

i think apprenticeship should be consitered as something seporate from what child labor was when it was active because apprenticeship is also education in a skilled labor. the reason child labor was becoming less common was standard of living was increasing but thats not to say that the poor wouldent still be taken advantage of and large factions of the population would have contenued to have child labor.

Well, back in Medieval times, apprenticeships started somewhere around 8-12. It wasn't until factories in the late 1800s and early 1900s that people started to dislike the idea of child labor, and that was mostly because of extremely dangerous working conditions

i agree w/ most of that, such as the standard of living is what i mean to say earlier .... it just was no longer needed after we had already walked thru the fire and brimstone of the industrial revolution so to speak

In the same vein, people used to get married around ages 13-15 in most countries until about 200 years ago

for example.... farming families today are even prohibited from allowing their children to work on their farm... even if they want to! that is just absurd IMO

if child labor was never abolished its not a matter of "no longer needed" its a matter of some people will still be doing it to this day. besides the less compatention for providing financal survival you can get within the nuclear family the better in my opinion

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SUQpfalF-iM

what is wrong with that if someone chooses with their own volition to work say as a child-prodigy programmer at a startup?

some kids are super gifted/talented and shouldnt be held back from the workplace if thats what they want

they arnt always

https://www.plant-for-the-planet.org/en/home company started by a 9 year old

im just saying... you say that its a bad thing per say, but there are always situations where its pretty common sense and normal for them to be in the workplace.... however labor laws prohibit that from happening. how is that freedom?

hell that company that set up tana con was started by a 17 year old

i see that child labor as an institution leads to the potental for abuse

i mean china

like Gary Vaynerchuck.... are you all familiar with his story?

some ppl are just born to be work horses and thats what they enjoy doing and want to do... hustling and making them $$$

who is anyone to say no to that

yeah, Arch, i agree there are a lot of uncomfortable aspects to it.... especially in developing countries and emerging economies that are still needing to walk thru the fire and brimstone

but it's a harsh reality and sometimes a necessity for survival