Message from @Poptarts
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yes you treat them as equals, but you don't consider them human, so you do have a definition of what defines a human
Well yeah I'd be willing to say something isn't a human, but to make an exact definition of 'this is a human anything that differs is not human' is where I think it gets fuzzy and dangerous
i would say no to AI .... just like why corporations arent people ....... they would be "super" humans of a literall different physical class of humans/people
humans arent immortal
a dog isnt human, an ant isnt human
Human is a type of species
@Schedrevka yeah, i agree with all that too
and since we don't have a good concept of an "equal" species, we level everything to human
Hence "acting humane" etc
"humanists"
So i think what we 3 have here, is a different concept cuz I believe we have a mixture of "being human" and "having humanity"
why the NAP cannot be applied to animals in the same way it will be (and should be) applied to humans universally by the force of common law, natural law (such as in the case of replacing the social contract with the NAP)
I think there's a difference in what is biologically human, and something 'having humanity'
exactly, so do i
and because animals dont follow the NAP either amongst themselves .... so we are not exactly going to make a rapey dolphin prison for all those rapey dolphins and other animals
but I wouldn't want to give exact definitions on either since people will use those labels to say 'this person lacks it' to justify doing awful things to them
"being human" is just the state of biological to me, hence i place it under identified by genetics
but YOU can personally apply the NAP to animals in yoru own life, just the point is that you cannot impose it on someone else like the NAP can be potentially
I would agree with you Schedrevka, but the world shows us that people don't need a reason to hate another "This person is black colored, so he's lesser"
like me, im vegetarian for the most part... but NOT going to impose it on others .... especially not go full militant vegan to liberate all the farm animals
butter is good for you tho
in moderation 😋
everything is
LOL no dude. dont even start trolling
drink a "moderate" amount of chlorine and come back to us to say how you feel
well, a moderate amount is hardly anything 😛
anything above that and it becomes "lethal"
now a moderate amount is hardly anything .... oh yeah, and an excessive amount is now hardly a moderate amount too
well, moderate is an indication
not a set value
I drank chlorine before. I think everyone who has been to a public pool has.
its a set value depending on what it is and what its being used for and how, etc ... all sorts of factors
ya, not pure chlorine though
highly diluted, of course
Sure.
yeah, how about a moderate amount of rat poison like fluoride either is good for you too, riiiight
it is actually
LOL dude, you are just trolling in this <#463068752725016579> thread
Moderate amount of radiation too you know?
A moderate amount of poisons CAN be good for you. Medicines are essentially poisons. A poison is just something that interacts with the body to throw it out of balance so to speak. But when the body is already out of balance that poison can swing things back towards the middle