Message from @Grenade123

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2018-07-16 22:32:31 UTC  

That's what people *say* but so much is dependent on how it starts.

Did the state cleave cleanly? Are there divisions within states? Is it a set of guerilla actions? Is it more of an open rebellion? Is the rebellion contained to one region? Who is most directly opposing the government? Where is the foreign support?

all these questions can dramatically change the outcome.

One thing that can be said, is that if the US descends into a true civil war, everyone (and I mean everyone, including outside the US) loses. It's an outcome better avoided IMO.

2018-07-16 22:33:14 UTC  

I actually am not,

I had to do school projects, where 8 people have to make a product, and none of us know what we're doing, yet the project was completed succesfully


Reality is pretty much the same on a larger scale :D

A bunch of idiots being forced to work together to finish something favorably

2018-07-16 22:33:19 UTC  

You would think. But human society has a weird way of finding stable regions and holding together.

Humans were built, in some sense, to create societies of one form or another.

2018-07-16 22:33:50 UTC  

If the system wasn't somewhat stable, it would collapse into something stable (barring world-ending or species-ending events)

2018-07-16 22:34:41 UTC  

like i said, an american civil war will end very fast and quickly,

Because 1 side is against using guns and against the state
and the other side is for guns and is with the state

The non-gun side will get steamrolled

2018-07-16 22:35:02 UTC  

IDK. I think you can get armed pretty quick if given support.

2018-07-16 22:35:12 UTC  

not to mention 95% don't even want a civil war

2018-07-16 22:35:21 UTC  

^ That's the big thing.

2018-07-16 22:35:39 UTC  

It feels like there's alot of pushing for something like that, but everyone knows that everyone loses.

2018-07-16 22:35:45 UTC  

It's brinksmanship at it's core.

2018-07-16 22:35:56 UTC  

having a gun doesn't make you an expert,

A guy with a machine gun and doesn't even know how to arm the gun (take safety off etc) isn't gonna put up much of a fight against a person that actually knows how to use a pistol

2018-07-16 22:36:24 UTC  

also the faction "pushing" for it, is the same faction that said hillary had a 95% chance to win the election

2018-07-16 22:37:40 UTC  

I wonder if a second "civil war" would be much like our second "great depression".

2018-07-16 22:38:37 UTC  

in name prolly, many people will GET depressed 😉

economy might not feel much because you'll flush california mighty-clean

2018-07-16 22:38:58 UTC  

I think Tim Pools' video on the possibility was hinting it would probably be more like the bombings of the 70s.

That's not outside the realm of possibility, but it's different than what most people would consider a "civil war"

2018-07-16 22:39:26 UTC  

If that's what you mean, I think I could agree that it would be alot like our second "great depression" in that it's alot of hyperbole.

2018-07-16 22:40:32 UTC  

a civil war would require two factions to clash

Otherwise its just terrorism

2018-07-16 22:40:47 UTC  

@Dr.Wol you don't understand, 2008 has been called "the second great depression" by some

2018-07-16 22:41:14 UTC  

I know, because the economy dropped by what was it? 3%?

Wasn't the 1933 great depression like 20%?

2018-07-16 22:42:21 UTC  

To which I'm just like "either the great depression was a lot more laxed than I thought, or we are so fucking pathetically cosy that having to lease a car rather than own it and not being able to buy a new house every year is "the second worse thing in the world"'

2018-07-16 22:42:40 UTC  

In history*

2018-07-16 22:42:44 UTC  

I think its the fact that media needs to keep people hooked

2018-07-16 22:42:56 UTC  

I mean, if Trump is the new Hitler
and America is a tyrannical state now

2018-07-16 22:43:08 UTC  

then dafuq kind of lies have my history books been telling me about the German Reich? 😄

2018-07-16 22:43:21 UTC  

Ikr

2018-07-16 22:43:57 UTC  

Although given how much the EU is controlled by Germany, I wouldn't be surprised to see the 4th Reich rise up out of it as it starts to collapse

2018-07-16 22:44:22 UTC  

Germany be like "we tried to do it the sneaky buddy buddy way, but you.forced our hand"

2018-07-16 22:44:27 UTC  

it popped up like 20 years ago, don't you know?

2018-07-16 22:44:45 UTC  

Whatever number they are on.

2018-07-16 22:44:51 UTC  

lolwat, the bot blocked me for writing too much in this channel 😄

2018-07-16 22:45:02 UTC  

Apparently including the current "Reich" in the US apparently

2018-07-16 22:45:30 UTC  

@JDM_WAAAT can we remove slow mode? It's kinda annoying

2018-07-16 22:45:47 UTC  

mmmmmm nah

2018-07-16 22:46:42 UTC  

but i mean like, the media even tried to sell the world that Merkel, is now the leader of the FREE world when Trump was elected

2018-07-16 22:47:30 UTC  

welp my messages are blocked wholey now 😮

2018-07-16 22:48:37 UTC  

why can't i write anymore? 😮

2018-07-16 22:49:35 UTC  

The media does 2 things in this world

1) pushes a collective narrative that it likes (this isn't as conspiratorial as it sounds, it's a complex interplay of personal biases and a need to create narratives to keep people hooked)
2) pushes sensational stories that prey on people's emotions to get them to buy papers.

Telling everyone there's oncoming catastrophe is #2, which then becomes #1.

2018-07-16 22:49:48 UTC  

okay it seems i can talk again 😛

2018-07-16 22:50:26 UTC  

I can only see up the where "is now the leader of the FREE world when Trump was elected"

2018-07-16 22:50:34 UTC  

Everything else got cut off.

2018-07-16 22:50:48 UTC  

well thats the last thing i wrote