But 80 billion is a mind boggling amount

be played very dirty, and destroyed other companies in the process

but in the end, he did deserve it

What's the metric for 'deserve'?

did he do criminal acts that he hasn't attoned for?

he violated certain anti-trust laws, and went to court, with the courts finding him guilty, and forcing him to give up his CEO position

after he destroyed Netscape

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

he didn't steal it,
didn't con it

all the money he earned is from people willing to work for him at their salaries,
and consumers willing to pay for his product

Ultimately thats true, or at least close enough to the truth

Which is why i said in the capitalist system it ultimately doesnt matter if you 'deserve' it, thats how the system works

exactly

Whether you contribute to peoples lives or not, so long as you managed to make the money within the letter of the law, the system accepts that.

well tahts the beauty of capitalism,

People decide themselves if they want it

nobody is forcing people to buy the best graphics cards etc for their pc

or most fancy iphones

the people decide what they want to buy

And if the market offers, people can buy it
If the market isn't there and people want it, Someone will get funding to get into that market and people will buy it

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

More favorable example for the non-capitalists is predatory lending

true

It's legal, you sign the loan, you can read the letter of what you're being offered, and accept it

But it's certainly not contributing to society to have alot of people bait people into predatory loans, and then profit off their misfortune.

thats a grey area for me

Because it sucks when people get suckered into that and become endebted

On the other hand, those people are adults, they should be responsible

there can't always be a protector/parent/nanny around

Its like Thomas Sowell said, something along the lines of
"You can't subsidise stupidity, and expect people to become more responsible"

I agree with the last bit, but i feel like this is a good example of where regulation is warranted. Stoping it entirely probably isnt worth it, but making it harder to do, and trying to inform people if they're being suckered is good.

true

I think that is a big issue that isn't factored in schools

Ultimately though, Yeah, you cant cure stupid.

you might be able to cure it, by letting people fall, and climb back up

or well, not stupid, Recklessness

Im not sure i'd call it reckless

Alot of predatory loans come in the form of payday loans and such

People cant quite make ends meet, they take the loan, they inevitably fail to pay it quite on time

yeah but i meant it in the sense of, stupid people will always be stupid,
But they can be careful and not dive stupidly into such deals

by thinking "oh this will fix my issues, *sign*"

Well they probably figure they can pay it in time

But then they fail, and the penalty is very high.

Payday loans have interest rates approaching 30%~

I think ive seen even higher.