and whatever remains will not be able to sustain it

The intent with UBI is that when you deal with someones most pressing issue, it would allow them more leway to move on to other issues.

now im off to dinner 😦 i'll be able to discuss this more when i'm back

No people don't work for free, they work for money, but a welfare state isn't an attack on capitalism.

Socialism is not welfare.

We are talking non labor tasks, like creativity or innovation

At least not in the way you're saying it.

Thats statism

No I dont think welfare is socialism, I think its statism

Okay, call it what you want.

Look, So the UBI is trying to solve this issue for this payback

GIve people mroe time to persue other topics. Stuff like create art, invent stuff, or get an education

And hopefully earn enough to go past the UBI

UBI is try to solve the problem of people who can't work shouldn't be forced into hell because of their lack of skills.

And Isnt that what welfare is right now?

Not really.

UBI is that, but for everyone regardless of income

Okay, who gets welfare?

UBI should cover that right? Thats the point right?

No

Who gets welfare?

Okay, what Im given to understand.

UBI means everyone gets a fixed wage.

No.

Regardless of status.

Not correct.

Enlighten me please

Who gets welfare?

This isn't a trick question.

I mean like I said, I thought UBI was the welfare

Right but who gets welfare.

Because UBI is covering what welfare as it is traditionally known .

Everyone gets UBI

What is welfare meant to do.

To do what UBI does as well?

No.

What is the purpose of welfare.

To allow people more leway to allow them to pursue other matters.

YOu have time to look for a job when you dont have to worry about going hungry

Until they're able to find a job, right?

But thats what UBI is supposed to be for? Allow people more leway to pursue less profitable avenues.