Message from @Dr.Wol

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2018-07-26 18:10:00 UTC  

exactly

2018-07-26 18:10:09 UTC  

is it possible? yes
Can we do it now? Fuck no

2018-07-26 18:10:21 UTC  

One thing I would point out with this AI stuff.

2018-07-26 18:10:29 UTC  

You saying that AI will NEVER replace X job is the same thing as people who said they'll never flay, they'll never break the sound barrier, they'll never split the atom, and so on.

2018-07-26 18:10:41 UTC  

It doesn't entirely matter. If AI starts becoming sufficiently powerful, we'll integrate it into ourselves.

2018-07-26 18:10:49 UTC  

And then it's a completely different distinction.

2018-07-26 18:11:03 UTC  

Now that's just fallacious.

2018-07-26 18:11:14 UTC  

There's been lots of stuff people have said would happen that never did.

2018-07-26 18:11:23 UTC  

Like what?

2018-07-26 18:11:31 UTC  

Look at old sci-fi. People wonder over all the stuff they got right but forget all the stuff they got wrong.

2018-07-26 18:11:35 UTC  

we'd have a moonbase by 1980

2018-07-26 18:11:46 UTC  

We could.

2018-07-26 18:12:06 UTC  

We just did have a economic motive to do it

2018-07-26 18:12:18 UTC  

Didn't have one that is.

2018-07-26 18:12:26 UTC  

Humans are not horses, is the main issue with the argument against market solving the problem

2018-07-26 18:12:44 UTC  

It's a gross oversimplification of the issue

2018-07-26 18:13:01 UTC  

I'd argue there's an even deeper issue. Everyone gets this strong AI/human distinction. But it doesn't exist.

2018-07-26 18:13:04 UTC  

Who said anything about it not be an optimal state?

2018-07-26 18:13:16 UTC  

Why would you not want automation to take over.

2018-07-26 18:13:28 UTC  

If I send a person into a field and s/he uses his/her cellphone in the process do I account that to the person or the cell phone?

2018-07-26 18:13:29 UTC  

to fuck over people 😉

2018-07-26 18:14:03 UTC  

That's not the same thing and you know it @pratel

2018-07-26 18:14:03 UTC  

Also the cashier example is funny, considering people are stealing groceries in ways they couldn't before

2018-07-26 18:14:13 UTC  

Yes it is and you know it @Dennafen

2018-07-26 18:14:24 UTC  

If AI is sufficiently powerful, it integrates with humans.

2018-07-26 18:14:37 UTC  

That's not true at all.

2018-07-26 18:14:37 UTC  

Like cell phones integrated with most people rendering some tasks moot.

2018-07-26 18:15:01 UTC  

Like, you don't need to be a skilled navigator anymore.

2018-07-26 18:15:10 UTC  

How has facebook integrated with humans other than to distract and enrage us?

2018-07-26 18:15:16 UTC  

I'd bet most people don't even know what "orienteering" is.

2018-07-26 18:15:19 UTC  

shows us peoples lives

2018-07-26 18:15:22 UTC  

Exactly.

2018-07-26 18:15:37 UTC  

Facebook has "replaced" certain things but enabled others.

2018-07-26 18:15:37 UTC  

No it doesn't it shows peoples fantasies.

2018-07-26 18:16:01 UTC  

And reality doesnt?

You partake in your friends relationship issues?

2018-07-26 18:16:17 UTC  

You snoop through their house without them knowing? look through their mess?

2018-07-26 18:16:18 UTC  

Sometimes actually yes.

2018-07-26 18:16:34 UTC  

The relationship issues not the snooping.

2018-07-26 18:16:37 UTC  

But only when invited, yes?

2018-07-26 18:16:52 UTC  

Depends on if I'm living with them or not.

2018-07-26 18:16:53 UTC  

in reality people show you what they want to show you,

Just like on FB, they show you what they want you to see of them