Message from @pratel

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2018-07-26 18:27:29 UTC  

Thats "Strong AI"

"Weak AI" is literally the system that makes street lights go out the moment theres enough light in the air

2018-07-26 18:27:39 UTC  

@Dennafen should a Norton bombsight count at GAI then?

2018-07-26 18:27:50 UTC  

No.

2018-07-26 18:27:58 UTC  

Calculating ballistic trajectories is an intellectual task, is it not?

2018-07-26 18:28:03 UTC  

No.

2018-07-26 18:28:21 UTC  

Does Google's search count?

2018-07-26 18:28:30 UTC  

How about ye olde internet indexes.

2018-07-26 18:28:30 UTC  

Nope.

2018-07-26 18:28:50 UTC  

those are all examples of Weak AI

But they're still AI

2018-07-26 18:28:53 UTC  

Yes.

2018-07-26 18:29:00 UTC  

Kind of.

2018-07-26 18:29:01 UTC  

-><-

2018-07-26 18:29:10 UTC  

Indexes aren't.

2018-07-26 18:29:35 UTC  

Strong AI is an AI that can think, reason, and learn outside its original given parameters

2018-07-26 18:29:45 UTC  

Yes.

2018-07-26 18:29:51 UTC  

basically like Data from Star Trek

2018-07-26 18:29:51 UTC  

General AI

2018-07-26 18:29:59 UTC  

Strong AI is a mystical future that may or may not arise.

2018-07-26 18:30:10 UTC  

exactly, for now its just a concept

2018-07-26 18:30:15 UTC  

Strong AI is alive.

2018-07-26 18:30:22 UTC  

But its development would cause such a massive reorganization of everything we probably can't concieve of what it would imply yet.

2018-07-26 18:30:44 UTC  

There are fundamental limits on what even the strongest strong AI can do.

2018-07-26 18:30:59 UTC  

Yes it's a concept the same way the flying machines, and supersonic flight was a concept, yes.

2018-07-26 18:31:40 UTC  

Have you heard of No Free Lunch?

2018-07-26 18:32:00 UTC  

I know the saying.

2018-07-26 18:32:05 UTC  

It's a theorem.

2018-07-26 18:32:21 UTC  

That strictly limits the kinds of things that you can do.

2018-07-26 18:32:30 UTC  

Okay.

2018-07-26 18:32:48 UTC  

It's not as limiting as it sounds, but it does say there are fundamentally things you cannot do with any learning system.

2018-07-26 18:33:06 UTC  

There's also issues of adapting to the environment.

2018-07-26 18:33:17 UTC  

Like, you can't just take a car up an untamed mountain.

2018-07-26 18:33:38 UTC  

There's no point in AI making art for AI consumers.

2018-07-26 18:34:14 UTC  

no point != impossible

2018-07-26 18:34:44 UTC  

Sure, but it is something that AI isn't going to likely do.

2018-07-26 18:35:28 UTC  

Okay, so you don't think we're going to be turned into paper clips, got it.

2018-07-26 18:36:51 UTC  

ima head off from this convo, its rocket league time 😛

2018-07-26 18:36:55 UTC  

But I'm still not sure what this has to do with Artificial general intelligence, it would fixable enough to do any task a human can do for no ongoing cost.

2018-07-26 18:37:03 UTC  

Have fun.

2018-07-26 18:37:06 UTC  

ty

2018-07-26 18:37:44 UTC  

Let's quit talking about a mystical super strong AI that outpaces anything a human can do.

2018-07-26 18:38:10 UTC  

It's not mystical.