Message from @ExceptionalFeather

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2018-08-07 02:33:59 UTC  

No. Anarchy was the natural starting point.

2018-08-07 02:34:26 UTC  

It wasn't 'tried', no more than you flip a switch to turn the darkness on.

2018-08-07 02:35:35 UTC  

The first state acknowledged property and penalty for depriving one of that property.

2018-08-07 02:36:18 UTC  

the state just turned into a popular property defense agency, except it doesnt really respect it since you dont get to be sovereign on your land

2018-08-07 02:36:20 UTC  

btw, the penalty for burglary was swift death.

2018-08-07 02:38:06 UTC  

And you don't think corporations would do the same thing?

2018-08-07 02:38:28 UTC  

if they did, they would be a de facto government

2018-08-07 02:38:39 UTC  

mmmhmm

2018-08-07 02:38:48 UTC  

We've changed the terms of service, by the way.

2018-08-07 02:39:17 UTC  

You can cancel at any time, but your property is forfeit.

2018-08-07 02:39:31 UTC  

but the difference between a population that supports and believes in it, and a population that rejects it because they equate it with black slavery, it makes quite a big difference

2018-08-07 02:39:46 UTC  

the corporation/government would now have the population as its enemies rather than supporters

2018-08-07 02:40:30 UTC  

They might even have a revolution, eventually, to control that power.

2018-08-07 02:40:50 UTC  

and distribute it to the people under it.

2018-08-07 02:41:09 UTC  

not if they think doing that is immoral

2018-08-07 02:41:30 UTC  

actually i dunno what you mean by control and distribute power

2018-08-07 02:42:15 UTC  

ruling power depends on the willingness to obey, ruling power is based on obedience

2018-08-07 02:43:07 UTC  

= = = = = = The Point

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2018-08-07 02:43:21 UTC  

yeah

2018-08-07 02:43:53 UTC  

arent there any other ancaps here? i feel like a shitty representative

2018-08-07 02:44:29 UTC  

I know there were a couple calling themselves that

2018-08-07 02:44:35 UTC  

can't recall names

2018-08-07 02:45:45 UTC  

alright

2018-08-07 02:45:55 UTC  

I admire your endurance though

2018-08-07 02:46:05 UTC  

lol thanks

2018-08-07 02:55:41 UTC  

I'll try this again.

2018-08-07 02:55:49 UTC  

I've thought it through a bit.

2018-08-07 02:56:37 UTC  

Alright, so you've got Ancap society.

2018-08-07 02:58:07 UTC  

Within this Ancap society, a security force opens up. One of the benefits of this security force is, let's say, a wall around the outermost properties.

2018-08-07 02:58:45 UTC  

They've also got infrastructure systems bundled in with their service.

2018-08-07 02:59:19 UTC  

So, they are so successful, they wind up getting some non-contiguous corporate colonies built up in addition to their own.

2018-08-07 03:00:26 UTC  

So, at some point, the owner of the corporation

2018-08-07 03:00:34 UTC  

Let's call him George...

2018-08-07 03:01:12 UTC  

George decides he's going to change the rules in a way that the members don't like. especially this one corporation colony over here...

2018-08-07 03:01:49 UTC  

This colony decides they like the structure that they have, but they don't like the apparent breach of contract.

2018-08-07 03:02:05 UTC  

And the changes don't align with their principles.

2018-08-07 03:03:04 UTC  

A few of them get together and decide they're going to sign a written notice to George asserting that their property is their own, and they should have a say as to what's going on with it.

2018-08-07 03:03:59 UTC  

so these guys, we'll give them names like Ben, Sam, John, Even another George or two.

2018-08-07 03:04:23 UTC  

Meet at a pub and all draft their notice to George

2018-08-07 03:04:30 UTC  

well do they own the property or not?

2018-08-07 03:04:50 UTC  

Well, George sends his corporate enforcers over