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2018-08-28 18:31:06 UTC  

a scientist is a philosopher first

2018-08-28 18:31:12 UTC  

if you cant udnerstand taht you are ignorant

2018-08-28 18:31:13 UTC  

Sure.

2018-08-28 18:31:25 UTC  

Because science ITSELF is philosophy.

2018-08-28 18:31:49 UTC  

A square is a rectangle, but a rectangle is NOT necessarily a square.

2018-08-28 18:31:56 UTC  

you are a dumbass

2018-08-28 18:32:11 UTC  

wow the clock on the slow mode restards

2018-08-28 18:32:32 UTC  

anyway you are not fist for this discussion then, you dont know what philosophy means

2018-08-28 18:33:48 UTC  

Well damn, man. Just throw those fallacies out there.

2018-08-28 18:34:46 UTC  

You just called me a dumbass and unfit to debate because we disagree on the nature of philosophy itself.

2018-08-28 18:34:58 UTC  

Can we agree that you just don't have the means to respond to my argument?

2018-08-28 18:35:49 UTC  

I'll accept that maybe you haven't considered the matter up until this point and haven't been challenged on it.

2018-08-28 18:37:06 UTC  

not going to debate you on a matter you have no knowledge of, and only want to go to google and loook up stuff to probe your point

2018-08-28 18:37:37 UTC  

I brought you definitions. As defined by Oxford, even.

2018-08-28 18:37:43 UTC  

And you disagreed with that definition.

2018-08-28 18:38:14 UTC  

And you sent me Wikipedia pages, uncited, which proved my point, and not your own.

2018-08-28 18:39:41 UTC  

If there is anyone in this debate who does not have the standing to argue, it has been proven to be you. And when challenged, you resorted to ad-hominem, and told me that I was not 'smart enough' to debate you on the matter. This is the play by play of our debate here so far. All you have left is ad-hominem, because the argument has been stripped from you.

2018-08-28 18:41:02 UTC  

And I know that sentence was redundant, but damn, man, it's got to get through your skull that just because we disagree doesn't necessarily default to you being right.

2018-08-28 18:41:11 UTC  

so no idea what axiology means and practical phylosophy

2018-08-28 18:41:21 UTC  

just google up stuff

2018-08-28 18:41:31 UTC  

make it fit to your definition of science

2018-08-28 18:43:59 UTC  

```Science
NOUN
1. The intellectual and practical activity encompassing the systematic study of the structure and behaviour of the physical and natural world through observation and experiment.
1.1 A particular area of science.
1.2 A systematically organized body of knowledge on a particular subject.```
Oxford.

2018-08-28 18:44:07 UTC  

see

2018-08-28 18:44:13 UTC  

googled more stuff

2018-08-28 18:44:55 UTC  

Your point? You said that I've got my own definition of 'science.'

2018-08-28 18:45:00 UTC  

I'm going by established definition.

2018-08-28 18:45:10 UTC  

Philosophy is not a Science.

2018-08-28 18:45:13 UTC  

....

2018-08-28 18:46:10 UTC  

having google doesnt mean you have knowledge

2018-08-28 18:46:24 UTC  

Having knowledge doesn't mean your knowledge is right.

2018-08-28 18:46:37 UTC  

lol

2018-08-28 18:46:39 UTC  

And Knowledge isn't wisdom

2018-08-28 18:46:50 UTC  

MY GOD hes a retard i am wasting time

2018-08-28 18:50:56 UTC  

this can relate to ethics

2018-08-28 18:51:02 UTC  

on my original point

2018-08-28 19:07:28 UTC  

I once was stuck in a debate with a friend for about an hour until she stopped and asked how I defined a single term. Once she heard how I define that one term, no mater how passionate she was, I would not except her point of view just based on the definition. As such she agreed that according to how I defined the term, she was wrong, however if we used her definition... then there would be room to talk.

2018-08-28 19:13:59 UTC  

Basically, this. Agreed-upon definitions are important if you're going to properly challenge your own ideas against someone else's - arguably the entire point of Debate. I've found that A LOT of disagreements come down to different definitions of a commonly used word within an argument. That's why establishing definitions 'looked up on google' from institutionally recognized Dictionaries is important, and why what may appear to be a tangential discussion on those definitions might be an important challenge to held beliefs in and of itself.

2018-08-28 19:15:35 UTC  

If someone argues with an SJW about what's racist and what's not, if one of them is using 'Power plus Prejudice' as their definition of Racism, then no real ground can be made to strengthen an argument.

2018-08-28 19:16:39 UTC  

Which is why I trap them with "Bigot"

2018-08-28 19:16:58 UTC  

Until they redefine that word, too...

2018-08-28 19:17:34 UTC  

For now it is a bear trap of a term