For now it is a bear trap of a term

When you control language, you control thought.

I knew I'd seen that quote somewhere.

```“Control language and you control thought; control thought and you control action; control action and you control the world.”```
— Peter Kreeft

vir·tue sig·nal·ing
noun
the action or practice of publicly expressing opinions or sentiments intended to demonstrate one's good character or the moral correctness of one's position on a particular issue.
"it's noticeable how often virtue signaling consists of saying you hate things"

For some reason I thought it was 1984. Although that was definitely a theme in it...

wewlad. that's a messy google search

how about this

Dang it I can't put the meme Quote

Jesus, I need to read ~~more~~ some Carlin.

i am sorry for being agressive and insultive

i thought philisophy was comong knowledge in the us and canada

like ,highschool knowledge

apparently only in private schools

and not all of them

i understand know your positions on the matter

My mother was a public school teacher, the quote I heard most often heard was "Look it up!" So I am mostly a self taught creature

philosophy means the love of wisdom, the search of knowledge and reason. science means knowledge

thats the basic directe definition

definitions change from country to country

The point I was making was that Science is more of a philosophy than the other way around.

That's the most charitable stance on it in accordance to what you were saying

I personally view them as twin disciplines.

Debate being the philosophical equivalent to experimentation

They both have common tools, logic and reason.

But philosophical principles can be opposed to one another and still equally right.

Philosophy is measured more in terms of strength, than in terms of right or wrong - as science is. And a solid argument contains both science AND philosophy, knowledge AND wisdom.

The reason a scientist would be a 'philosopher first', would be because that knowledge is useless without the wisdom to utilize it, and the wisdom to seek knowledge would be the driving force behind scientific endeavor.

By all means, you can point out where you disagree with that - You might convince me that Science is a Philosophy, but I believe the evidence that Philosophy is a Science is weak to non-existent. (Also, the definitions I defaulted to were from from a centuries-standing British University)

(Since Tim started using the Oxford English Dictionary for his definitions, I've started using that as my standard as well, even if I may disagree with them on commas and the spelling of the word Pheonix.)

They can't even spell aluminum right

I have had to resort to using old physical dictionaries to look stuff up definitions for things like this.

You mean Aluminium

I prefer that pronunciation, actually.

It flows easier.

I have to add a pause at the end of saying Aluminum

No expects you to actatually throw a book at them

https://youtu.be/CWrMGXwhFLk?t=2m44s

Ignore the scene before the relevant quote

Requires previous scenes to make sense.

Also watch the whole thing. Scroobius Pip is awesome.