Message from @MaxKolbe
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You asked me to make a guess on something. I did. From your subsequent comments, it looks like my guess was much closer to reality than you like and it hit close to home. But, that's just the impression you give, I could be wrong. [shrug]
Guys, this religion thing really doesn't go anywhere.
Yeah, you're wrong. Again.
its like arguing with a dyslexic national socialist from australia
@Vigil Please show where I m ade any such accusation. I did make a ugess, and it's a scientific one since the scientific data shows clearlyt h at most atheists have father issues.
It's more annoying I can't free you from the comforting lie
Have you taken your joy?
"comfortring lie" -- another faith-based position, and an ideological one. Not particularly rational or logical. But go on, keep trying to co nvince me to ignore the evidence and accept your ideology. Y ou're just like a feminist.
What evidence is there for God, Max?
You keep *saying* there's evidence
"Ignore the evidence"
Provide proof. The bible is the claim, and not proof. Presupposition is not proof
What evidence is there? We have evidence in dozens of places at once. Where would you like to begin, contemporary science or the classical evidence that's never been successfullly refuted by anyone?
Your evidence seems to be that "People generally like to try and make sense of their surroundings" and God for the longest time *was* that explanation
So do you want to start with the classical, or the science?
"one since the scientific data shows clearly that most atheists have father issues." interesting, i'd like to see this study
Scientifically prove that prayers work when prayers have never worked in my life
From birth none of my prayers have ever worked
For the classical, we have more than a dozen proofs we've had for thousands of years never successfully debunked. If you have the ability to think hard and study and try to understand something, try here:
Oh jeez guys make sure you watch Rick And Morty before you try and understand this guy's highly intellectual information
Since we're all faithless cave-dwellers making bone spears and all
Hold on lemme shoot up some drugs
"Read this book first"
Or just make the case
Ohhhhh yeah, that's almost as good as beating homeless men to death with a cricket bat
God I love living in an amoral, repercussionless society
So here's the thing with religion arguments:
What's the endgame? Suppose you convince someone to go to church. This changes what exactly? What goals have you achieved. Suppose you get some people to quit going to church? Does it matter outside religious holidays?
Meanwhile, no one actually is being convinced because it's all stuff that you really can't quantify or reason about anyways. And you alienate everyone.
Stuff like voting and political systems have far more potential impact.
Personally, I would rather discuss tactics for political mobilization
"I can't be bothered to read books or examine studies. I need you to spoonfeed it to me in ways that I personally will arbitrarily decide whether to accept or reject." No thank you. If you aren't willing to engage serious ideas seriously I have no time for you.
But we seem really big on this religion topic.
Asshole, if you can't explain your own faith you're contradicting the bible
And now everyone's just trading insults.
@Vigil You live in an amoral, repercussionless society because it abandoned God, straight up. The lies you tell yourself about religion and those of us who reject your shalow contempt and willful ignorance give those of us who don't share your worldview no reason to give you m uch respect back.
"Read a whole book because I can't sum up a single point of evidence"
I get along with atheists who aren't hateful jackholes making ludicrous generalizations. I dont' get along with Angry Atheist Identitarians with daddy issues.
or who act like they have daddy issues.
which god has been abandoned to make it amoral? we got plenty to pick from, all claiming to be moral
I was being sarcastic. I am still a moral person without God. In fact I became more moral when I abandoned religion since I stopped being as judgemental
@Grenade123 On the science showing most atheists are fatherless, here:
Atheists are over 90% male, and over 90% of them have father issues. That's what the science shows. It also shows autistics more likely to be atheist, though that's still a minority of autistics. It also sh ows most grow out of it.
Is that some actual adhom I see?
always nice to be in the 10% of something good i guess