Message from @MaxKolbe

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2018-09-10 20:12:28 UTC  

You asked me to make a guess on something. I did. From your subsequent comments, it looks like my guess was much closer to reality than you like and it hit close to home. But, that's just the impression you give, I could be wrong. [shrug]

2018-09-10 20:12:33 UTC  

Guys, this religion thing really doesn't go anywhere.

2018-09-10 20:12:41 UTC  

Yeah, you're wrong. Again.

2018-09-10 20:12:53 UTC  

its like arguing with a dyslexic national socialist from australia

2018-09-10 20:12:54 UTC  

@Vigil Please show where I m ade any such accusation. I did make a ugess, and it's a scientific one since the scientific data shows clearlyt h at most atheists have father issues.

2018-09-10 20:12:54 UTC  

It's more annoying I can't free you from the comforting lie

2018-09-10 20:13:01 UTC  

Have you taken your joy?

2018-09-10 20:13:33 UTC  

"comfortring lie" -- another faith-based position, and an ideological one. Not particularly rational or logical. But go on, keep trying to co nvince me to ignore the evidence and accept your ideology. Y ou're just like a feminist.

2018-09-10 20:14:17 UTC  

What evidence is there for God, Max?

2018-09-10 20:14:23 UTC  

You keep *saying* there's evidence

2018-09-10 20:14:25 UTC  

"Ignore the evidence"
Provide proof. The bible is the claim, and not proof. Presupposition is not proof

2018-09-10 20:14:44 UTC  

What evidence is there? We have evidence in dozens of places at once. Where would you like to begin, contemporary science or the classical evidence that's never been successfullly refuted by anyone?

2018-09-10 20:14:46 UTC  

Your evidence seems to be that "People generally like to try and make sense of their surroundings" and God for the longest time *was* that explanation

2018-09-10 20:14:54 UTC  

So do you want to start with the classical, or the science?

2018-09-10 20:15:00 UTC  

"one since the scientific data shows clearly that most atheists have father issues." interesting, i'd like to see this study

2018-09-10 20:15:03 UTC  

Scientifically prove that prayers work when prayers have never worked in my life

2018-09-10 20:15:17 UTC  

From birth none of my prayers have ever worked

2018-09-10 20:15:19 UTC  

For the classical, we have more than a dozen proofs we've had for thousands of years never successfully debunked. If you have the ability to think hard and study and try to understand something, try here:

2018-09-10 20:15:44 UTC  

Oh jeez guys make sure you watch Rick And Morty before you try and understand this guy's highly intellectual information

2018-09-10 20:16:00 UTC  

Since we're all faithless cave-dwellers making bone spears and all

2018-09-10 20:16:02 UTC  

Oh jeez guys, we got someone who gets his worldview from cheap shallow cartoons.

2018-09-10 20:16:08 UTC  

Hold on lemme shoot up some drugs

2018-09-10 20:16:24 UTC  

"Read this book first"
Or just make the case

2018-09-10 20:16:33 UTC  

Ohhhhh yeah, that's almost as good as beating homeless men to death with a cricket bat

2018-09-10 20:16:45 UTC  

God I love living in an amoral, repercussionless society

2018-09-10 20:16:55 UTC  

So here's the thing with religion arguments:

What's the endgame? Suppose you convince someone to go to church. This changes what exactly? What goals have you achieved. Suppose you get some people to quit going to church? Does it matter outside religious holidays?

Meanwhile, no one actually is being convinced because it's all stuff that you really can't quantify or reason about anyways. And you alienate everyone.

Stuff like voting and political systems have far more potential impact.

Personally, I would rather discuss tactics for political mobilization

2018-09-10 20:17:02 UTC  

"I can't be bothered to read books or examine studies. I need you to spoonfeed it to me in ways that I personally will arbitrarily decide whether to accept or reject." No thank you. If you aren't willing to engage serious ideas seriously I have no time for you.

2018-09-10 20:17:09 UTC  

But we seem really big on this religion topic.

2018-09-10 20:17:16 UTC  

Asshole, if you can't explain your own faith you're contradicting the bible

2018-09-10 20:17:22 UTC  

And now everyone's just trading insults.

2018-09-10 20:17:56 UTC  

@Vigil You live in an amoral, repercussionless society because it abandoned God, straight up. The lies you tell yourself about religion and those of us who reject your shalow contempt and willful ignorance give those of us who don't share your worldview no reason to give you m uch respect back.

2018-09-10 20:18:03 UTC  

"Read a whole book because I can't sum up a single point of evidence"

2018-09-10 20:18:15 UTC  

I get along with atheists who aren't hateful jackholes making ludicrous generalizations. I dont' get along with Angry Atheist Identitarians with daddy issues.

2018-09-10 20:18:20 UTC  

or who act like they have daddy issues.

2018-09-10 20:18:25 UTC  

which god has been abandoned to make it amoral? we got plenty to pick from, all claiming to be moral

2018-09-10 20:18:37 UTC  

I was being sarcastic. I am still a moral person without God. In fact I became more moral when I abandoned religion since I stopped being as judgemental

2018-09-10 20:18:40 UTC  

@Grenade123 On the science showing most atheists are fatherless, here:

2018-09-10 20:19:16 UTC  

Atheists are over 90% male, and over 90% of them have father issues. That's what the science shows. It also shows autistics more likely to be atheist, though that's still a minority of autistics. It also sh ows most grow out of it.

2018-09-10 20:19:28 UTC  

Is that some actual adhom I see?

2018-09-10 20:19:34 UTC  

always nice to be in the 10% of something good i guess