Not necessarily

do you see now the sinister and scary bit about socialism...

You can have good hand eye coord but it doesn't mean you'll have a good grasp of the "rules" of art/perspective. You can self teach for sure but not everyone has the drive

(my cat is a fucking jumpscare, fucking came out of no where, and jumped from under by desk onto my lap. the fucker)

wait, isn't it ironic that a a lot of artists are of the hippy commie/socialist kind?

indeed, but that doesn't mean that you'd have a pool of artists as rich. Besides, you are mandated to be a painter or a musician, or a composer. And you are state mandated to be just that. What would inspire you 😉

No, artists rely on patrons

State as patron could easily be viewed as beneficial

oh did I mention that you are not allowed to NOT work if the state finds you a job? You might really want to be a singer and you probably have a tallent for it, but if you don't get an art education, or have a patron or the right connections, you are a baker... for life...

Also creativity/openness tend to be higher in lefties iirc

in liberals, not lefties.

In a liberal/conservative dichotomy the two are often used interchangeably

Mostly because it's not a good dichotomy

the more you use liberal as interchangeable with left, the more this is going to get worse imo

I generally don't use the dichotomy

Either left/right or liberal/conservative, beyond light shitposting

Left/right is especially arbitrary tbh

It is. I'm high in consciousness (right) but also high in openess (left)

exactly my point 😄

I don't just mean big5 traits

I mean "left wing" and "right wing"
Like what makes "the alt-right" right wing?

Right Wing? More like White Wing

Ayy

But, yeah, I don't know

It's a good question

But seriously, a lot of those memesluts love the welfare state

They're not for individual rights so they're definitely not libertarian. Some of them are traditional-ish, but they don't respect US cultural values (free speech being one of them)

for all that is worth, and this is an outsider looking in, US cultural values are inharently racist AF. This is so so so sad and brutal.

which values would those be?

you view citizens of a different race as a group with certain protections, advantages, privileges and even class them as culturally different.

oh, you mean the leftist views?

or at least the views the msm

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_protected_person

you all use them to an extent. I can start a gender and or race debate, which is way too much for me (04:24 AM where I am)

an unfortunate necessity brought on by a bunch of racist

we were going in a good direction 10 or so years ago

we went way backwards in the last like 4

i remember when token characters were racist

now its racist not to have token characters

identitarianism is a method of power politics. in the past it was used by the callous and powerful to opress the weak, now its used by the weak and nihilistic to take power from the powerful and stupid

you always had a concept of "black culture" or "italian culture" or "mexican culture". Don't know, probably seems fine with you, but as a foreigner, it disturbs me greatly and most mono-ethnical countries see it as mean to say the least