Message from @pratel

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2018-09-15 18:33:47 UTC  

Yeah, it takes a lot of time, I feel you

2018-09-15 18:34:18 UTC  

Anti-military types will claim that's "a ridiculous number of tanks that are sitting ariund"

2018-09-15 18:34:30 UTC  

That's their exact wording

2018-09-15 18:34:45 UTC  

Which, aside from the "ridiculous" part (which is a subjective evaluation) is mostly because they aren't shooting anybody at the moment.

2018-09-15 18:34:51 UTC  

Which is probably better than the alternative.

2018-09-15 18:35:13 UTC  

The best level of military deployment is a question without an easy answer.

2018-09-15 18:35:24 UTC  

The US has a massive military. It also has massive obligations.

2018-09-15 18:35:39 UTC  

And alot of that comes down to holding a stick big enough no one makes you use it.

2018-09-15 18:35:41 UTC  

Yeah, I remember people were talking about how the US have global presence

2018-09-15 18:36:22 UTC  

Europe was completely was almost dependent on the US for defense. Japan, Korea and Taiwan usually measure their time to fight against China alone in weeks of months.

2018-09-15 18:36:47 UTC  

Europe's position is a bit more questionable mostly just because there's not too many obvious threats aside from Russia.

2018-09-15 18:37:03 UTC  

But the South China sea has been warming up.

2018-09-15 18:37:18 UTC  

And China is making a massive bid for military capabilities.

2018-09-15 18:38:10 UTC  

Ah, I get ya

2018-09-15 18:38:18 UTC  

The US military was actually downsizing from Iraq for awhile now IIRC

2018-09-15 18:38:27 UTC  

So it's less on edge than in the past.

2018-09-15 18:38:36 UTC  

Actually been cancelling jet fighter orders last I heard.

2018-09-15 18:39:41 UTC  

It is a fact that in terms of things like Tanks and planes, the US military is orders of magnitude larger than it's opposition. It's actually very similar to the UK navy just around the 1900s.

2018-09-15 18:40:01 UTC  

Which is slightly worrying. When Germany caught up around 1900-1910...

2018-09-15 18:41:03 UTC  

We're probably several decades away from China challenging the US, but when the China/Russia/Africa Axis hits critical mass things could get much harder.

2018-09-15 18:41:16 UTC  

If it hits critical mass.

2018-09-15 18:42:20 UTC  

Oh, my favorite "spend the whole allocation" Public universities do it. And private universities on public grants.

2018-09-15 18:42:28 UTC  

The US need to clamp down on socialism before that happens because you guys will have so many double agents

2018-09-15 18:42:57 UTC  

Do the socialists recognize China as communist?

2018-09-15 18:43:08 UTC  

I can't tell anymore.

2018-09-15 18:43:58 UTC  

But the Us should do something about the socialists. The general rule is that their policies are often counterproductive or hinder growth.

2018-09-15 18:44:10 UTC  

Or inefficient.

2018-09-15 18:44:32 UTC  

The US is so full of double agents already it's probably not possible to really rout it all out.

2018-09-15 18:45:07 UTC  

Heck, during the cold war, entire segments of the British intelligence services were in the employ of the Soviets or full of soviet sympathizers.

2018-09-15 18:45:18 UTC  

The US is full of such people too.

2018-09-15 18:45:39 UTC  

It's weird because SJWs hate China, but love the policies China put into place

2018-09-15 18:45:58 UTC  

"A protected internet where people can't say things the state disapprove of? Yeah! I love it!"

2018-09-15 18:46:03 UTC  

Because yknow

2018-09-15 18:46:40 UTC  

Fabulous protected speech and all

2018-09-15 18:47:30 UTC  

So funny story. The Chinese constitution protects freedom of speech...

2018-09-15 18:48:29 UTC  

Hahahaha

2018-09-15 18:48:44 UTC  

The Chinese government protect free speech about as well as they protect child workers

2018-09-15 18:48:57 UTC  

Yeah, but let it sink in for a second.

2018-09-15 18:49:24 UTC  

Just because you have piece of paper that is supposed to be the social contract that guarantees you something *does not mean* you will get it.

2018-09-15 18:49:43 UTC  

Which is why this freedom of speech stuff in the US, UK and EU is so damn important.

2018-09-15 18:50:21 UTC  

The Chinese literally have a line in the constitution guaranteeing the people the right to freedom of speech. But they added a couple exceptions to it and simply don't have it.