Message from @Yuki
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Washington state
Ayy PNW
I blame it on the 24 Hours news cycle and advertisement based entertainment.
The news networks needed to continually ramp up events to get viewers/clicks so they kept pushing things farther and farther.
There's a lot of moneyt o be made treating real life like it's pro wrestling
There's even a heel in the white house now
actually IIRC
Trump was the face when he was in WWE
cause Vince almost always played the Heel.
We need a president who can actually sell a stunner though
Trump's are pretty limp
So Dolph Ziggler 2020?
This was a really good breakdown of the hearing and the moral aspects of it. Also talked a bit about the left and "civil war". https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SYz2qQ_PswI
Fak it doesn't embed.
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Yeah I noticed.
No cigar smoking allowed? That 's insane
I remember the uptight 80s and it wasn't this bad
@Knights Armament I'm going to mostly agree and add that if you're looking for a specific early example of Leftist identity politics causing divide, look no further than the Atheism+ movement that started back in 2012. The insertion of ideas that feminism and intersectionality are key aspects of being a proper skeptic caused a huge rift in the Atheist community, and even back then you had things similar to the more modern #metoo movement with that one lady who claimed to be sexually assaulted in an elevator by some prominent member of the Atheist community. Caused huge schisms along the same lines we see today (believe victims vs. innocent until proven guilty). The only difference is these politics have become much more visible in the mainstream now especially with them becoming increasingly dominant in institutions like Academia and Journalism. Trumps election is absolutely a symptom of the problem but his pushback also fuels the divide. Whether or not you can call that his fault is an entirely different discussion that I would be conflicted on, although I learn towards it mostly not being his fault.
Richard Dawkins
He was a popular voice of skeptics
Cause of this https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_God_Delusion
Sorry let me correct that, she wasn't sexually assaulted in an elevator. A man said at an elevator that he found her attractive and asked to come up for coffee which she took exception to in a video and a slate article. Dawkins weighed in that complaining about that is basically being whiny esp considering the guy left her alone after that and never layed a finger on her.
yeah, i know of that book :)
i watched a debate between him and a cardinal
why'd u mention him?
he was involved with the incident I am referencing
oh :o
the author of that article is the woman?
The one from the elevator yes, but she doesn't accuse Dawkins of sexually harassing/assaulting her
I misremembered the stories details
did u say she accused dawkins of sexually harassing/assaulting her then?
No, I initially said she accused a prominent member of the Atheist community of sexually assaulting her in an elevator. Risotto brought up Dawkins. My details of the story were wrong so I wanted to clarify that it wasn't a prominent member and it was claims of harassment.
oh, okay :)
I remember it was a big deal at the time
i do think she went too far
Yeah I remember it being a big deal too
It was actually a sort of landmark moment where I started to think the left was becoming unhinged
That's part of why I liken it to the metoo movement we have now