Message from @Jes
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look china and africa. there is your chep labour.
As Tim's video shows, capitolism has been the single greatest force in removing poverty so I dont think that
@Jasse makes a good point there though. all the EU governments are desperate for that sweet cheap labour
importing the migrants like there is a sale on
I've actually seen it argued that those statistics are misleading and that if you remove China then the outcome isn't as good but I haven't actually looked into that ymself
I think people mistaken being involved in a lot of conflict as secretly starting them. People forget that war is more normal in human history than people think.
its accurate to within a couple of % points
The MIC does incentivize us to be involved in thing we shouldn't.
war is always by the deception
But @grant I'm not asking if capitalists take advantage of cheap labor where it exists like India/China/Etc, I'm asking if you think capitalist societies purposely create such an underclass including in our home countries
sorry no grant
In our home countries no I dont think so, thats the perato principal in effect
damn my spelling is trash today
Ok, allow me to use this as an example
No, again history shows us that there has always been an underclass.
Claims like that sound like all these places were great than capitalism came in and made underclasses
Same with MIC was no one warring than the MIC came about
The idea that capitalists purposely create an underclass is at least possible, in theory, and would explain parts of why "this is the way this is" like why poverty is the way it is, why we have large income inequality, etc. That doesn't mean it's necessarily true. This same concept applies likewise to other concepts like the MIC or the theory that WWII started because Germany was trying to betray the IBS. Could you come up with a narrative that makes sense? Sure. Does that mean it's true? Not necessarily. Does that mean it's false? Not necessarily either.
Do you mean pareto?
Yes I know about the pareto principle. To clarify, I personally don't believe that capitalist societies are creating an underclass. I'm using that example to demonstrate a point that just because a narrative could make sense when you accept certain axioms doesn't mean that narrative is true.
ahh cool
Purposefully creating an underclass*
I do think some *individuals* are trying to create an underclass
Sure. There are always bad actors and I think that's the case with the MIC too. I just don't think it's a pervasive grand conspiracy.
yeah we align on that ^^
I can agree with that
Sadly I think War and classes are human nature so they're not going away any time soon.
its easy to blame X group for stuff. its the Jews/Christians/Atheists/Capitolists/MIC/Deep state
jews/capitalist/MIC/deep state
are all one same actor
although the deep state is just your civil servants no?
i dont think its even that contested.
just follow who controls money, media and goverment.
Is it me?
((the jews))
/s
Darn I was hoping it was me that controlled everything.
On a more serious note, Jews have an average IQ of 115. That puts them at the top 15% of the distribution, it's no wonder they're overrepresented in the media and high caliber professions
how many times they need to be thrown out before it becomes (((their))) fault?
how many times do they have to kill the kulaks before we realize it's (((their))) fault