Message from @Aktriaz

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2018-10-01 21:04:42 UTC  

Immigrants are heavily integrated

2018-10-01 21:04:48 UTC  

Except for some Muslims

2018-10-01 21:05:10 UTC  

they are horrible at being integrated

2018-10-01 21:05:44 UTC  

The Asians and Africans and Eastern Europeans become 90% Irish within just 1 generation

2018-10-01 21:05:52 UTC  

No joke

2018-10-01 21:06:23 UTC  

But the Roma just kinda beg on the streets

2018-10-01 21:06:32 UTC  

Is Roma a derogatory term?

2018-10-01 21:06:46 UTC  

mouse born in aquarium doesnt just become fish.

2018-10-01 21:07:14 UTC  

bad analogy

2018-10-01 21:07:15 UTC  

U wouldn’t get it unless you lived in Ireland

2018-10-01 21:07:22 UTC  

humans are the same species

2018-10-01 21:07:34 UTC  

It’s the last bastion of good immigration

2018-10-01 21:07:46 UTC  

In Western Europe

2018-10-01 21:08:04 UTC  

different races.
race doesnt change based on where you born

2018-10-01 21:08:21 UTC  

A lot of the immigrants adopt western values in short periods and inter marry

2018-10-01 21:08:33 UTC  

In Ireland

2018-10-01 21:08:45 UTC  

do you believe culture is downstream from race?

just clarifying

2018-10-01 21:09:07 UTC  

been through this before, better to not beat around the bush

2018-10-01 21:09:16 UTC  

Downstream?

2018-10-01 21:09:29 UTC  

I have never heard that phrase

2018-10-01 21:10:50 UTC  

it's a way of saying one thing will lead to another

in this context, I'm asking if he believes people of a certain race will always gravitate towards a certain culture, regardless of external factors

2018-10-01 21:11:40 UTC  

That’s not really true imo. That only happens if they aren’t allowed to be assimilated (Like in a lot of Europe)

2018-10-01 21:13:27 UTC  

you can teach monkey to act like human. but that isint natural for monkey and it would never develop to act like that.
and you cant deny where that way of behiving originated from.

2018-10-01 21:14:08 UTC  

I wouldn’t compare immigrants to monkeys

2018-10-01 21:14:13 UTC  

again, a bad analogy. you're taking two different animals are using them as an example for a single species

2018-10-01 21:14:36 UTC  

They are a by product of historical mishaps

2018-10-01 21:14:37 UTC  

literally apples to oranges

2018-10-01 21:15:11 UTC  

Before many things occurred their lands were once the pinnacle of human thought

2018-10-01 21:15:57 UTC  

ofc that was exaggeration of what i mean. but you get the point?

2018-10-01 21:16:21 UTC  

What about second generation immigrants?

2018-10-01 21:16:25 UTC  

I think it's hyperbolic

2018-10-01 21:16:31 UTC  

Do u think they still fall under that?

2018-10-01 21:20:21 UTC  

there are certainly differences between races, but not to the degree you can say for certain that some things will always happen with certain races. Human variability is too great.

It's much more sound to explain the differences between culture by tying it to the environment in which it was created.
However, groups of people bring their culture with them, so if you bring a bunch of Muslim theocrats from the third world and all have them live together in a new society they will maintain that.

2018-10-01 21:20:41 UTC  

^

2018-10-01 21:20:46 UTC  

Yes

2018-10-01 21:21:13 UTC  

If they are assimilated and live with natives they can change heavily and breed together

2018-10-01 21:23:35 UTC  

why do you think different race with over one standard deviation lower IQ will ever perform in same level as native populaion?

let alone good reason to bring them in in first place.

2018-10-01 21:25:11 UTC  

I never claimed to believe that.

Nor do I believe "bringing people over" is a thing that should be done.

2018-10-01 21:25:21 UTC  

>IQ
Wanna explain the Flynn effect?

2018-10-01 21:25:56 UTC  

what about flynn effect?

2018-10-01 21:26:56 UTC  

taking it into account, Americans of yesteryear were over one standard deviation lower than Americans today, depending on the point in time you want to focus on