Message from @Aktriaz
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been through this before, better to not beat around the bush
Downstream?
I have never heard that phrase
it's a way of saying one thing will lead to another
in this context, I'm asking if he believes people of a certain race will always gravitate towards a certain culture, regardless of external factors
That’s not really true imo. That only happens if they aren’t allowed to be assimilated (Like in a lot of Europe)
you can teach monkey to act like human. but that isint natural for monkey and it would never develop to act like that.
and you cant deny where that way of behiving originated from.
I wouldn’t compare immigrants to monkeys
again, a bad analogy. you're taking two different animals are using them as an example for a single species
They are a by product of historical mishaps
literally apples to oranges
Before many things occurred their lands were once the pinnacle of human thought
ofc that was exaggeration of what i mean. but you get the point?
What about second generation immigrants?
I think it's hyperbolic
Do u think they still fall under that?
there are certainly differences between races, but not to the degree you can say for certain that some things will always happen with certain races. Human variability is too great.
It's much more sound to explain the differences between culture by tying it to the environment in which it was created.
However, groups of people bring their culture with them, so if you bring a bunch of Muslim theocrats from the third world and all have them live together in a new society they will maintain that.
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Yes
If they are assimilated and live with natives they can change heavily and breed together
why do you think different race with over one standard deviation lower IQ will ever perform in same level as native populaion?
let alone good reason to bring them in in first place.
I never claimed to believe that.
Nor do I believe "bringing people over" is a thing that should be done.
>IQ
Wanna explain the Flynn effect?
what about flynn effect?
taking it into account, Americans of yesteryear were over one standard deviation lower than Americans today, depending on the point in time you want to focus on
But I assume you wouldn't compare Americans in 1918 to other species
'member IQ normalisation over time
we are all the same species 😃
well, except the commies 😛
there were comparisons made between different races and mice vs fish lol
not even aussie had the autism to do that
at most he compared different breeds of dogs
which admittedly would be a far better analogy for a race realist to use
But normalization doesn't explain the Flynn effect, which now appears to be reversing
And was prev. a steady ~3 points per decade iirc
>now appars to be reversing
yeah i wonder if bringing 60IQ africans have something to do with nations average IQ.🤔
Again, if we're accepting the Flynn effect we accept the whole thing, do we not? Consistency please
If your assertion is that immigration is driving down the mean IQ and that the findings are correct for actual IQ test results then we also accept that 1918 America was full of smooth brains
I would reject both, personally
yeah you are rejecting everything that is contradicting with your view.
No, I'm holding a consistent position
Do you think Americans in previous generations were less intelligent?
few points.
but ways to measure IQ have also developed.