Message from @Tal,Karpov,AlekhineAllCoolGuys

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2018-10-01 20:57:48 UTC  

its kind of odd how people see that immigration causes housing chrisis and price of real estate to rise.
and banks value is directly tied to real estate value:

but for some reason people dont seem to be abel connect those two.
but why🤔

2018-10-01 21:00:17 UTC  

_insert libertarian view_ If people started moving to affordable places that still accept their skill set, the real estate values would also normalize

2018-10-01 21:00:37 UTC  

In Ireland I’d estimate only about 3/8 of the exploiters of the housing crisis is immigrants but the rest aren’t. I know someone who’s a bloody pimp who somehow has council housing

2018-10-01 21:01:02 UTC  

And another person who faked being unable to take care of themselves and living in a council house and daughter’s house

2018-10-01 21:01:09 UTC  

like look what happend in 2007 when housing prices started to level out.
because population boom ended

2018-10-01 21:01:56 UTC  

Milton Friedman actually advocated for unrestricted illegal immigration--under the requirement that there is no welfare system--precisely because they would feed labor into the system and not take anything out.

It's obviously impractical and not very humane. And it would still depress wages.

Usually, (legal) immigration is a positive. It's like having a positive birth rate of *only* people who are wealthy or motivated enough to move.

The housing price rise is due to demand.

2018-10-01 21:02:14 UTC  

The real challenge is figuring out how to defeat the tendency of industry to cluster in excess.

2018-10-01 21:02:38 UTC  

Usually

2018-10-01 21:02:41 UTC  

The internet was supposed to be the lifeline to the rural communities due to telecommuting, but instead it seems to accelerated population concentration.

2018-10-01 21:03:45 UTC  

In Ireland’s case it is. But the bloody government is allowing some of them to exploit welfare

2018-10-01 21:03:53 UTC  

And others who are natives

2018-10-01 21:03:59 UTC  

>europe

2018-10-01 21:04:10 UTC  

white people dont want to live around immigrants so they move to richer neighborhoods, and push real estate prices even higher.
and thus pushing value of banks higher.

2018-10-01 21:04:31 UTC  

In Ireland there is good diversity

2018-10-01 21:04:42 UTC  

Immigrants are heavily integrated

2018-10-01 21:04:48 UTC  

Except for some Muslims

2018-10-01 21:05:10 UTC  

they are horrible at being integrated

2018-10-01 21:05:44 UTC  

The Asians and Africans and Eastern Europeans become 90% Irish within just 1 generation

2018-10-01 21:05:52 UTC  

No joke

2018-10-01 21:06:23 UTC  

But the Roma just kinda beg on the streets

2018-10-01 21:06:32 UTC  

Is Roma a derogatory term?

2018-10-01 21:06:46 UTC  

mouse born in aquarium doesnt just become fish.

2018-10-01 21:07:14 UTC  

bad analogy

2018-10-01 21:07:15 UTC  

U wouldn’t get it unless you lived in Ireland

2018-10-01 21:07:22 UTC  

humans are the same species

2018-10-01 21:07:34 UTC  

It’s the last bastion of good immigration

2018-10-01 21:07:46 UTC  

In Western Europe

2018-10-01 21:08:04 UTC  

different races.
race doesnt change based on where you born

2018-10-01 21:08:21 UTC  

A lot of the immigrants adopt western values in short periods and inter marry

2018-10-01 21:08:33 UTC  

In Ireland

2018-10-01 21:08:45 UTC  

do you believe culture is downstream from race?

just clarifying

2018-10-01 21:09:07 UTC  

been through this before, better to not beat around the bush

2018-10-01 21:09:16 UTC  

Downstream?

2018-10-01 21:09:29 UTC  

I have never heard that phrase

2018-10-01 21:10:50 UTC  

it's a way of saying one thing will lead to another

in this context, I'm asking if he believes people of a certain race will always gravitate towards a certain culture, regardless of external factors

2018-10-01 21:11:40 UTC  

That’s not really true imo. That only happens if they aren’t allowed to be assimilated (Like in a lot of Europe)

2018-10-01 21:13:27 UTC  

you can teach monkey to act like human. but that isint natural for monkey and it would never develop to act like that.
and you cant deny where that way of behiving originated from.

2018-10-01 21:14:08 UTC  

I wouldn’t compare immigrants to monkeys

2018-10-01 21:14:13 UTC  

again, a bad analogy. you're taking two different animals are using them as an example for a single species

2018-10-01 21:14:36 UTC  

They are a by product of historical mishaps

2018-10-01 21:14:37 UTC  

literally apples to oranges